Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/05/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:11:32 AM SB305
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Presentation by Econ One
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 305(RES)                                                                                            
     "An  Act providing  for a  production  tax on  oil and  gas;                                                               
     repealing  the  oil  and  gas  production  (severance)  tax;                                                               
     relating to the calculation of  the gross value at the point                                                               
     of production of oil or gas  and to the determination of the                                                               
     value of oil  and gas for purposes of the  production tax on                                                               
     oil and gas;  providing for tax credits against  the tax for                                                               
     certain   expenditures   and   losses;   relating   to   the                                                               
     relationship of the  production tax on oil and  gas to other                                                               
     taxes, to  the dates those  tax payments and  surcharges are                                                               
     due,  to interest  on overpayments  of the  tax, and  to the                                                               
     treatment of  the tax  in a  producer's settlement  with the                                                               
     royalty owners; relating  to flared gas, and to  oil and gas                                                               
     used  in the  operation of  a  lease or  property under  the                                                               
     production tax; relating  to the prevailing value  of oil or                                                               
     gas  under the  production  tax; relating  to surcharges  on                                                               
     oil; relating  to statements  or other  information required                                                               
     to be filed with or  furnished to the Department of Revenue,                                                               
     to the penalty  for failure to file certain  reports for the                                                               
     tax, to the powers of the  Department of Revenue, and to the                                                               
     disclosure of  certain information required to  be furnished                                                               
     to  the   Department  of  Revenue   as  applicable   to  the                                                               
     administration of  the tax;  relating to  criminal penalties                                                               
     for  violating conditions  governing  access to  and use  of                                                               
     confidential  information relating  to the  tax, and  to the                                                               
     deposit  of  tax  money  collected   by  the  Department  of                                                               
     Revenue;  amending  the  definitions of  'gas,'  'oil,'  and                                                               
     certain other terms for purposes  of the production tax, and                                                               
     as the  definition of the  term 'gas' applies in  the Alaska                                                               
     Stranded   Gas   Development   Act,   and   adding   further                                                               
     definitions;  making  conforming amendments;  and  providing                                                               
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the fifth hearing for  this bill in the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JIM   BOWLES,   President,  ConocoPhillips   Alaska,   introduced                                                               
Marianne   Kah,  Chief   Economist,  ConocoPhillips/Houston   who                                                               
specialized  in global  economics and  David Bramly  with Charles                                                               
River  Associates  (CRA)  International,  a  consulting  firm  to                                                               
ConocoPhillips which  specializing in  international oil  and gas                                                               
fiscal issues.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles acknowledged the challenges  facing the Legislature in                                                               
its endeavor  to revise  the State's oil  and gas  fiscal policy.                                                               
The  complexity of  the issue  has  also been  difficult for  the                                                               
industry "to take on".                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles  stated  that  after  attending  several  Legislative                                                               
hearings  on  this  issue,  the   company  had  gained  a  better                                                               
understanding  of  the information  required  of  them to  answer                                                               
Legislators  questions  and to  provide  further  insight on  the                                                               
issue. Therefore,  today's presentation would concentrate  on how                                                               
ConocoPhillips  conducted its  business and  made its  investment                                                               
decisions.  The  intent would  be  for  these "tools"  to  assist                                                               
Legislators  in the  crafting of  this  petroleum production  tax                                                               
(PPT).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  advised against Legislators taking  the philosophy of                                                               
increasing  oil taxes  to a  point just  short of  "crippling the                                                               
industry  and  then backing  off  just  a  little bit  from  that                                                               
point". This would be likened to  "not wanting to kill the golden                                                               
goose but we'll  take him as close to death  as possible and then                                                               
revive  him". This  presentation  would include  "a continuum  on                                                               
this.  That  as the  golden  goose  gets weaker,  investment  and                                                               
associated volumes respond accordingly".                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles also  addressed the  philosophical position  that the                                                               
State's tax rate  should increase due to the  recent high profits                                                               
the  oil  industry  has  experienced  by  stating  that  the  oil                                                               
business is "a very very  capital intensive business. During good                                                               
times, we collect  money and we have it ready  to reinvest during                                                               
bad times".  Today's presentation would attest  that the industry                                                               
continued  to make  significant investments  in the  State during                                                               
the good times.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles  addressed   the  question  of  what   would  be  the                                                               
appropriate percentage split of  revenues, or "take", between the                                                               
State, the  federal government, and  the industry. The  notion of                                                               
splitting the take  into thirds "really has no basis  in any type                                                               
of  international competitive  market".  This presentation  would                                                               
provide further  insight to "how  Alaska could be  considered and                                                               
looked at with respect to  world markets". Such information could                                                               
be utilized in the development of "a proper" tax structure.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:11:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                         SB 305 (CS) Testimony                                                                                  
                         ConocoPhillips Alaska                                                                                  
                             April 5, 2006                                                                                      
[Note:  The  pages  in  this   document  are  not  numbered.  For                                                               
reference purposes,  the Senate Finance Committee  Secretary made                                                               
a notation on  each page of the corresponding  timestamp in which                                                               
that  page  was addressed  in  the  hearing. General  descriptive                                                               
information  of  each page  is  provided  in  the body  of  these                                                               
minutes when feasible.  A copy of the handout can  be obtained by                                                               
contacting the Legislative Research Library at (907)465-3808.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Note: The PPT bill introduced  by Governor Frank Murkowski is SB
305. The  version of the PPT  bill being considered in  the House                                                               
of  Representatives   is  CSHB  488(RES).  The   PPT  bill  being                                                               
considered  in the  Senate is  CSSB 305(RES).  The House  bill is                                                               
referred to  as CSHB 488  and the Senate  bill is referred  to as                                                               
CSSB 305 in these minutes.]                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  referred the Committee  to the  "Projected Production                                                               
Tax  Revenues" graph  in  the presentation  [copy  on file].  The                                                               
vertical scale represented "State  Take (nominal 20-year sum)" in                                                               
billions of  dollars. The horizontal scale  depicted the revenues                                                               
the State would receive under  the current production tax regime,                                                               
the  Economic Limit  Factor  (ELF) as  compared  to the  revenues                                                               
anticipated from SB 305, CSSB 305  and CSHB 488, as affected by a                                                               
$40 and $60 Alaska North Slope (ANS) prices per barrel of oil.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles explained  that at $40 per barrel,  ELF would generate                                                               
approximately one billion dollars annually  or a 20 year total of                                                               
approximately $20  billion. SB 305  would essentially  double the                                                               
taxes  currently  paid  to  the  State  by  the  industry.  While                                                               
acceptance of  this increase was  difficult for the  industry, it                                                               
was made easier by the fact  that the industry recognized, as did                                                               
the Legislature, that "it was time  to change" the ELF system. As                                                               
a result, industry was "willing  to support" the provisions in SB
305.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles continued  that at  $60  per barrel,  CSHB 488  would                                                               
"effectively triple" the  tax rate under ELF. CSSB  305 could, at                                                               
current oil  prices, quadruple the  "total State Take  in dollars                                                               
from  industry". Today's  testimony  would  contend "that  taking                                                               
that amount of  dollars from industry has to have  some affect on                                                               
our capacity to reinvest".                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:13:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Prudhoe Gross Capital Spend vs Severance Tax Rate                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles stated  that this graph would depict  the "Prudhoe Bay                                                               
gross capital  dollars spend over  a five year period"  from 2001                                                               
through 2006  as affected by  ELF and the proposed  severance tax                                                               
rates. Even  though there has  been some production  decline, the                                                               
severance tax  take percentage depicted  by the blue line  on the                                                               
graph indicated that during this  time period had remained fairly                                                               
steady, ranging  from ten to  12 percent. The  increase reflected                                                               
in 2006 indicated  "the aggregation that occurred  last year when                                                               
the satellite  fields were  aggregated at  Prudhoe Bay".  The red                                                               
line  on  the  graph  would   indicate  that  ConocoPhillips  had                                                               
invested approximately $400 million  dollars annually during this                                                               
timeframe.  Separate testimony  had  indicated  that the  overall                                                               
annual industry  investment on the North  Slope was approximately                                                               
one  to 1.5  billion  dollars. Investment  in  Prudhoe Bay  would                                                               
account for approximately  one third of the  total industry North                                                               
Slope  capital  investment. Even  with  rising  oil prices,  this                                                               
investment had been steady.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE:  The labels  of the  graph lines  on this  chart had  been                                                               
inadvertently reversed.  See Time  Stamp 10:25:13 AM  for further                                                             
clarification].                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Kuparuk Gross Capital Spend vs. Severance Tax Rate                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles reviewed  the industry's  capital  investment at  the                                                               
Kuparuk field  during 2001 and  2006 as compared to  that field's                                                               
Severance Tax rate.  The severance tax rate, depicted  by the red                                                               
line,  showed   the  declining  severance  tax   rate  under  the                                                               
provisions of  ELF. In  2001 the tax  rate was  approximately six                                                               
percent,  and  in 2006  the  rate  was approximately  zero.  When                                                               
comparing  capital investments  in  Kuparuk to  those in  Prudhoe                                                               
Bay, the  record would indicate  that as the tax  rate decreased,                                                               
investment increased. The size of  the 2006 investment in Kuparuk                                                               
was approximately  equal to the  investment at Prudhoe  Bay, even                                                               
though the Kuparuk field was  approximately "2.5 times smaller in                                                               
production  capacity".  The  conclusion  was  that  the  activity                                                               
occurring in  Kuparuk was  directly driven  by the  severance tax                                                               
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE:  The  labels  of  the  graph  lines  on  this  chart  were                                                               
inadvertently reversed.  See Time  Stamp 10:25:13 AM  for further                                                             
clarification].                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles surmised  that CSSB 305 "probably  puts that effective                                                               
severance tax  rate anywhere  between 16 and  22 percent  … going                                                               
forward". Consideration should  be given to how a tax  rate of 16                                                               
to 22  percent might  affect a field  that had  been experiencing                                                               
essentially a  zero percent tax  rate. "One would have  to assume                                                               
that there's going  to be a direct correlation to  what we see in                                                               
that investment…"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:16:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked whether the  numbers being  presented were                                                               
limited to ConocoPhillips' activity in these fields.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles   clarified  that   the  capital   investments  being                                                               
discussed "have  been grossed up  to reflect total  field dollars                                                               
spent".                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   understood  therefore  that   the  information                                                               
reflected the  total investment made  by the major  oil producers                                                               
operating on the North Slope.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles   affirmed.  The  Prudhoe   Bay  and   Kuparuk  field                                                               
investments  would   reflect  total  gross  dollars   spent.  The                                                               
investments  made  at  these  two fields  would  amount  to  $800                                                               
million or approximately two-thirds  of the investments occurring                                                               
today. This  trend would be expected  to continue in the  near to                                                               
mid term future.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:17:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked regarding ConocoPhillips'  calculations that                                                               
the PPT would result in a  severance tax rate of approximately 16                                                               
to 22  percent, as he  understood the net  tax under SB  305's 20                                                               
percent tax and  20 percent credit (20/20) PPT  proposal would be                                                               
approximately  nine percent  and approximately  12 percent  under                                                               
the  25/20 tax  proposal  in  CSSB 305.  Thus,  his question  was                                                               
whether  this calculation  methodology matched  that utilized  by                                                               
ConocoPhillips.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles  advised  that  the numbers  could  not  be  directly                                                               
compared.  The methodology  utilized by  ConocoPhillips indicated                                                               
that the provisions  of SB 305 would result in  an approximate 15                                                               
percent   severance  tax.   The   House   and  Senate   committee                                                               
substitutes would increase the tax beyond that.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked  whether the 15 percent tax rate  would be "a                                                               
net tax after credits".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles, affirming  it would  be, explained  that the  effort                                                               
undertaken  in the  North Slope  and Prudhoe  Bay graphs  "was to                                                               
convert this  into an  apple to  apple comparison"  by presenting                                                               
the numbers  in terms  of the  present ELF  tax system  "which is                                                               
really just  a tax on gross  revenues". The 16 to  22 percent tax                                                               
rate  estimation would  be the  result of  the numbers  under the                                                               
provisions of SB 305 being  adjusted to "an equivalent percent of                                                               
gross revenue.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:19:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman understood  that  the numbers  in  the PPT  bill                                                               
would "flux" as  the bill developed; however,  according to State                                                               
calculations,  a  15  percent  severance   tax  under  the  20/20                                                               
provisions  of  SB  305  would  require a  per  barrel  price  of                                                               
approximately $80; a $50 per barrel  oil price would result in an                                                               
approximate  12  percent  severance  tax rate.  Tax  rates  would                                                               
fluctuate as oil prices increased and decreased.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman recalled  that, in  terms of  industry aggregate                                                               
numbers as opposed to individual  company's numbers, the 2005 net                                                               
to producers,  at an  average per  barrel oil  price of  $43, was                                                               
estimated  to   be  approximately   $4.7  billion.  This   was  a                                                               
"historically high"  amount. Recent  estimates, based  on average                                                               
oil price  of $58.70  per barrel, would  be that  producers would                                                               
net approximately $6.5 billion in 2006.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman asked  whether  "large net  income gains"  might                                                               
influence  the  industry's  capital decisions.  In  other  words,                                                               
would industry  opt to  make capital  investments rather  than to                                                               
pay the  federal government a  significant amount of  money. This                                                               
issue has not been addressed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles responded  that ConocoPhillips, with "one  of the most                                                               
aggressive  capital reinvestment  programs" of  any of  the major                                                               
producers,  was  dedicated to  that  effort  and was  undertaking                                                               
numerous  "significant  projects"   worldwide.  The  majority  of                                                               
ConocoPhillips'  "allocation  of  profits   now  goes  back  into                                                               
reinvestment,  and  to  … established  dividends",  and  retiring                                                               
debt, which  at the  end of 2005,  amounted to  approximately $13                                                               
billion.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  communicated that "during  bad times we take  on more                                                               
debt"  and during  "good times",  the effort  was to  reduce that                                                               
debt.  The goal  was to  keep the  company "steady"  through both                                                               
good and bad times.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:22:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  declared that  efforts must  be made  to further                                                               
clarify  the  information,  as research  conducted  by  Econ  One                                                               
Research, Inc.,  the economic research and  consulting firm hired                                                               
by  the Legislature,  indicated that  "the costs  statewide" were                                                               
approximately  $2.4 billion  in 2005  and $2.3  billion in  2006.                                                               
Econ  One  must  assist  in   clarifying  whether  these  capital                                                               
investments  were   being  compared   in  "an  apple   to  apple"                                                               
scenarios.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles concluded his remarks.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:23:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                           CRA International                                                                                    
                  Review of Alaskan Fiscal Proposals                                                                            
                             April 5, 2006                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  BRAMLEY, Vice  President, Charles  River Associates  (CRA)                                                               
International, consultant firm  to ConocoPhillips, explained that                                                               
CRA was "a  global firm specializing in  business consultancy and                                                               
economics". It served  as oil and gas consultants  to private and                                                               
national  companies   as  well  as  governments.   He  experience                                                               
included  working   in  the  exploration  and   production  (E&P)                                                               
division  of Shell  International and  as a  petroleum economist,                                                               
business  planner  and  E&P  consultant   to  oil  companies  and                                                               
governments  in  more  than   30  countries.  "Understanding  the                                                               
applications   of  E&P   fiscal   systems   and  their   business                                                               
implications is fundamental" to his job.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Overview of CRA Approach                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Will the proposed changes in Alaska's fiscal system support                                                                
     new investment?                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        · Comparable group of mature OECD producers                                                                             
        · Economic potential                                                                                                    
          * Maturity/Prospectivity                                                                                              
          * Cost base                                                                                                           
        · Fiscal Terms: Total Government Take                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley   communicated  that   CRA  had  been   retained  by                                                               
ConocoPhillips  to   analyze  the  State's  PPT   proposals.  The                                                               
analysis included  comparing the  PPT to "the  fiscal environment                                                               
of  other"   mature  and  significant   oil  and   gas  producing                                                               
Organization  for Economic  Cooperation  and Development  regions                                                               
(OECD). He  acknowledged the "difficult  tradeoff" the  State was                                                               
undertaking  in  deciding  "between  balancing  the  imperatively                                                               
short-term  revenues with  those of  incentivizing investment  to                                                               
arrest future production decline".                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  assured the  Committee that  CRA "did  not approach"                                                               
this fiscal analysis with the  viewpoint "that lower taxes are an                                                               
inherently  good   thing".  Instead,   "a  comparable   group  of                                                               
international of oil  and gas areas", the  OECDs, were identified                                                               
and  their  fiscal systems  compared  "in  the context  of  their                                                               
underlying economic  potential and current levels  of investment.                                                               
Through  these comparisons  we've sought  to illustrate  how well                                                               
Alaska's  existing  fiscal  system  is aligned  to  the  economic                                                               
realities  of  the  region  and   to  infer  what  would  be  the                                                               
consequences for  investment of  the proposed changes."  CRA drew                                                               
upon  its experience  "to generate  working  assumptions that  we                                                               
believe  reflect the  techno-economic  realities of  each of  the                                                               
comparison areas  and applied  methodologies". This  would assist                                                               
in projecting  how investors  "will assess  the impact  of fiscal                                                               
terms in their investment decision making".                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley identified  the  question CRA  strove  to answer  as                                                               
being  whether "the  proposed changes  to Alaska's  fiscal system                                                               
support new  investment". The  majority of  the effort  to answer                                                               
this question  was based  on comparing  the State's  existing ELF                                                               
tax system  to the  terms of SB  305, CSHB 488  and CSSB  305. He                                                               
would  identify  areas in  which  provisions  in CSSB  305  would                                                               
affect the analyses.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated that the  answer to the primary  question was                                                               
largely based  on how  the fiscal  changes would  affect investor                                                               
decision  making.  Both large  and  small  oil and  gas  industry                                                               
investors  operating in  Alaska  make  their capital  allocations                                                               
decisions "in the context of  a larger portfolio of choices about                                                               
where to  invest". There was  "a huge range of  competing options                                                               
in different  parts of the world  and different parts of  the oil                                                               
and  gas value  chain". Like  other sectors  of today's  economy,                                                               
capital mobility  levels in  the oil and  gas business  "are very                                                               
high".                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  declared that  the OECD  producers utilized  in this                                                               
comparison   were  appropriate.   While   these  producers   were                                                               
comparable  they were  also different.  "The underlying  economic                                                               
potential of  each of them"  was presented in terms  of "relative                                                               
maturity  and  remaining  prospectivity  on  the  cost  base  for                                                               
accessing   available  opportunities   in  each   area".  Another                                                               
comparison  utilized was  that of  "the overall  Total Government                                                               
Take  of the  net  cash  flow from  investing  in  a typical  new                                                               
opportunity  in   each  area".   This  analysis  was   the  "most                                                               
fundamental" influence  in the effort  to attract  investors. All                                                               
applicable  taxes   including  State   and  federal   taxes  were                                                               
included. The  end result  of all of  these factors  provided "an                                                               
effective  high level  view of  the impact  on investment  of the                                                               
current and proposed Alaska fiscal term".                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley stated  that the approach taken by  CRA was different                                                               
from  other analyses  in  several  fundamental respects.  Further                                                               
information  on  these  differences  and how  they  affected  the                                                               
conclusions  of  this  report  would  be  identified  during  the                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Comparing Alaska's fiscal proposals to other mature OECD                                                                   
     producing areas is the basis for a realistic appraisal of                                                                  
     their impact on investment                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     OECD Oil & Gas                Common Investment                                                                            
     Peer Group                    Characteristics                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska                        Similar strategic roles in                                                                   
     Australia NW Shelf            overall investment portfolios                                                                
     Canada Oil Sands                   *Large, established oil                                                                 
     Norway                              and gas producers                                                                      
     UK North Sea                       *Similar political and                                                                  
     US GoM Deep Water                   business risks                                                                         
     US GoM Shallow Water          High level of comparability                                                                  
                                        *Remaining potential and                                                                
                      Costs are comparable                                                                                      
                                         from public data                                                                       
                                        *Similar fiscal                                                                         
                                         structures                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Investor Capital Allocation Decisions                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley stated that in  order to make "meaningful comparisons                                                               
of investment  attractiveness of the  whole of the  diverse range                                                               
of options  available to investors" was  complicated by different                                                               
corporate business  strategies and  different levels of  risk and                                                               
rewards   attached    to   those   opportunities.    Instead   of                                                               
generalizing, the decision  was made to focus  on the comparisons                                                               
and  the E&D  activities of  a select  group of  "developed world                                                               
economies". The  investments made  by this  OECD group  tended to                                                               
have similar  strategic roles  in overall  investment portfolios;                                                               
they  could  "substitute for  each  other  in terms  of  investor                                                               
decisions"  as they  were all  "large  oil and  gas provinces  of                                                               
global  significant"  with  long production  histories,  existing                                                               
infrastructure; stable commercial  regulatory mechanisms, and had                                                               
significant  remaining  reserves  despite their  maturity  level.                                                               
They  each  had "free  competitive  access"  and were  absent  of                                                               
barriers to capital  investment. They also had  similar levels of                                                               
political, legal and commercial risks.  Overall they were a group                                                               
of investments with similar ranges of risk and reward.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley also  identified another  commonality as  being that                                                               
"one  could  readily   distinguish  and  characterize  investment                                                               
opportunities"  in  each area  because  they  had similar  fiscal                                                               
structure:  a  royalty tax  structure  as  opposed to  production                                                               
sharing. In  addition, they  tended to have  "the tax  ring fence                                                               
drawn at the  corporate level". In conclusion,  the OECD grouping                                                               
was "a good base" for CRA's analysis.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley stated  that had a different  subset of opportunities                                                               
such as the  "higher prospectively regions" of  Angola and former                                                               
Soviet  Union  regions  been included  in  the  comparison,  "the                                                               
results would have been  fundamentally different". The comparison                                                               
would  have been  more complex  and  would have  spanned a  wider                                                               
range of risk and reward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:31:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska's production declined by 6% between 2000 and 2004:                                                                  
     in the middle of the group                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Total Hydrocarbon Production Change 2000-2004                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Region         2004 Production     Growth/decline                                                                          
                     (mboe/day)         since 2000                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     US GoM SW          738                  -27%                                                                               
     Australia NWS     403                   -27%                                                                               
     UK               2,144                  -19%                                                                               
     Alaska             946                  - 6%                                                                               
     Norway           3,180                    8%                                                                               
     US GoM DW        1,037                   26%                                                                               
     Canada Oil Sands   997                   64%                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Norway's production dropped by 10% between 2004 and 2005,                                                                  
     the loss almost entirely through decline in oil production.                                                                
     Source: CRA Analysis of public sources of production                                                                       
     history in each area                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  communicated that  due to  the extraction  nature of                                                               
the petroleum business,  the total economic potential  of an area                                                               
would  be a  function  of  the types  of  its  reserves "and  the                                                               
technical and  operational costs  required to bring  the resource                                                               
to  market.  A field's  maturity  should  also be  considered  in                                                               
regards "to its  remaining prospectivity since the  best and most                                                               
economic  hydrocarbon  resources  are  typically  discovered  and                                                               
developed early in  a region's life". Following  that there would                                                               
be  "a  natural pattern  of  diminishing  returns throughout  the                                                               
remainder"  of  the  area's  life   cycle.  Thus,  the  level  of                                                               
"maturity   and  remaining   prospectivity  of   Alaska's  fields                                                               
relative to  other OECD regions  would be an important  factor in                                                               
defining the context for fiscal comparisons".                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  specified that the  Alaska National  Wildlife Refuge                                                               
(ANWR) was  purposefully excluded  from the  comparison scenario.                                                               
In addition,  the "currently uneconomic"  heavy oil  resources in                                                               
the State would be addressed separately in the presentation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  concluded that the  "overall oil and  gas production                                                               
from an area tends to rise to  a peak" and then experience a long                                                               
and steady decline. The United  Kingdom (UK) was the exception to                                                               
this characteristic. The information presented  on page 3 was the                                                               
total rate of oil and gas  decline or increase experienced by the                                                               
identified  areas  between  2000 and  2004;  Alaska's  production                                                               
declined  by  six  percent  during   that  timeframe.  The  State                                                               
experienced a  similar six percent  decline from 1980 to  2000. A                                                               
steeper decline rate was projected over the long term.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska has 44% of its known conventional oil and gas                                                                       
     reserves remaining                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Total Hydrocarbons Produced/Remaining                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     [This bar depicts the amount of oil and gas produced to                                                                    
     date and the estimated amount of oil and gas reserves                                                                      
     remaining.]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley advised  that  the State's  remaining  "oil and  gas                                                               
reserves and their size relative  to past production from an area                                                               
are  another fundamental  measure  of maturity".  The bar  charts                                                               
presented on this  page depicted produced oil and  gas volumes to                                                               
date in green  coloring and remaining reserves in  blue. He noted                                                               
however,  that "definitive  reserve  figures"  were difficult  to                                                               
determine.  The numbers  in  red above  Alaska's  and other  OECD                                                               
regions  depicted the  percent of  reserve potential  relative to                                                               
past  production. The  region with  the lowest  remaining reserve                                                               
levels  was  the UK.  Alaska  with  44  percent of  its  reserves                                                               
remaining was the second lowest of the comparison group.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:33:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska and the UK are the only regions within the OECD                                                                     
     group to show a decline in proven oil and gas reserves over                                                                
     the last decade                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Change in Total Proved Reserves (1994-2004)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     [This  bar chart  is a  comparison of  Alaska to  other OECD                                                               
     regions  based  on  the  area's   ability  to  replace  used                                                               
     reserves with proven reserves.]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated that another  measure to be  considered would                                                               
be an areas'  renewal ability. In other words,  how successful an                                                               
area might be  in "replacing year by year  production with proved                                                               
petroleum reserves". Besides the UK  which is just slightly below                                                               
replacement   production,   only   Alaska  "failed   to   replace                                                               
production on a proved reserve basis over the last ten years".                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:34:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska has had only eight  new fields start production since                                                               
     2001  and the  average field  size was  the smallest  of the                                                               
     group                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Average New Field Size vs. Number of Starts                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     [This graph  depicts the  number of  new fields  and average                                                               
     field size  for Alaska  and other  OECD regions  between the                                                               
     years 2001 and 2005.]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley cited  the number  of new  field developments  in an                                                               
area as  another measure used  to depict "an area's  potential to                                                               
add  to its  producing base  and to  arrest long  term production                                                               
decline". Alaska had  "the lowest number of  new producing fields                                                               
and the smallest average size" in the comparison group.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:35:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska  has the  lowest exploration  (wildcat) activity  and                                                               
     success rate in the OECD comparison group                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Exploration Activity (1995-2004)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     [This  bar  graph  compares the  number  of  wells  explored                                                               
     between 1995  and 1999  to those  explored between  2000 and                                                               
     2004 in  OECD regions. The  graph also indicates  the number                                                               
     of successful  exploration efforts an area  experienced from                                                               
     2000 and 2004.]                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  explained that this information  depicted the number                                                               
of exploration  wells drilled in  areas over the past  ten years.                                                               
The  green portion  of each  area's bar  indicated the  number of                                                               
wells drilled between  1995 and 1999 as compared  to the activity                                                               
for  that area,  as  reflected by  the blue  portion  of the  bar                                                               
chart, for  the years 2000 to  2004. The numbers in  red above an                                                               
area's bar  chart would  reflect the  percent of  its exploration                                                               
wells  during the  ten  year period  which held  oil  and gas  in                                                               
commercial  quantities.  Alaska  lagged behind  the  other  areas                                                               
"both in  terms of  the number of  exploration wells  drilled and                                                               
the number of those wells which were commercially successful".                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:35:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Likely new  developments in Alaska are  relatively small and                                                               
     high cost                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Typical New Development Size and Cost                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     [This graph compares  the cost of new  field developments in                                                               
     Alaska to other  OECD regions in terms  of estimated capital                                                               
     and operating  expenses. NOTE: Alaska's total  costs include                                                               
     an   allowance  for   the   incremental   effects  of   TAPS                                                               
     transportation and Jones Act shipping requirement costs.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley stated  that CRA  developed profiles  of a  "typical                                                               
field"  in  Alaska  and  other  OECD  regions  based  on  "recent                                                               
development  history and  an  analysis of  the  available set  of                                                               
forthcoming   opportunities".   This    information   helped   in                                                               
"characterizing  an area's  economic potential  and [was]  a good                                                               
basis for our later calculations  of Government Take and economic                                                               
terms".                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  explained that  the bars on  the chart  depicted the                                                               
typical size  of a field  in an area. The  numbers in red  at the                                                               
end of each bar reflected  the total "capital and operating costs                                                               
of  a barrel  of oil  equivalent  to bring  that oil  and gas  to                                                               
market".  The Alaska,  the  UK,  and the  United  States Gulf  of                                                               
Mexico Shallow  Water fields were  the smallest fields  each with                                                               
an average of 50 million  barrels of oil equivalency [BOE]. Those                                                               
three  areas' costs  were also  the  highest at  $15, $11.50  and                                                               
$9.50 per BOE, respectfully, for new developments.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:36:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska  emerges on  a variety  of measures  as a  relatively                                                               
     mature and high cost petroleum area                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     [This   document  provides   a   percentage  comparison   of                                                               
     production  trends,   reserves  produced,   proved  reserves                                                               
     replacements,  new  field   starts/field  size,  exploration                                                               
     wells, exploration  success rates,  and new  field technical                                                               
     costs for Alaska and other  OCED regions. The information is                                                               
     also  color  coded  to indicate  high,  mid-range,  and  low                                                               
     remaining prospectivity levels.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated that  this was a  summary of  the information                                                               
presented on pages 3 through  8. The overall trends were depicted                                                               
in   colors:  "red   indicates  low   prospectivity  levels   and                                                               
conversely high  maturity and high  unit costs",  green signified                                                               
high  prospectivity levels  and low  costs, and  yellow signified                                                               
mid-range prospectivity levels. Alaska  was "predominately in the                                                               
red category".  This should not  be interpreted as  Alaska having                                                               
"little remaining  economic" and  resource potential, for  it and                                                               
the  other   OECD  areas  do.   However,  the  meaning   of  this                                                               
information "in relative  terms" was that Alaska  would rank "low                                                               
in  this  group"  for its  "attractiveness  to  investment".  The                                                               
maturity analysis  also raised concerns  about the impact  of the                                                               
State's existing fiscal terms as  this information would indicate                                                               
that Alaska's  current tax  regime was  not very  competitive for                                                               
new investment.  Alaska ranked  lowest in  the OECD  grouping "on                                                               
measures closely  related to production replacement  activity; in                                                               
other words,  exploration drilling numbers and  new field starts,                                                               
even before  looking at direct  fiscal comparisons.  That doesn't                                                               
suggest a highly competitive climate for new investment."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:38:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     The basic PPT 20/20 proposal gives Alaska the second                                                                       
    highest level of total government take within the group                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Total Government Take versus Total Technical Costs                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     [This graph  illustrates how Alaska,  were the SB  305 20/20                                                               
     PPT proposal  adopted, would be positioned  in comparison to                                                               
     other OECD regions in terms  of Total Government Take verses                                                               
     operating and capital expenses costs.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated this chart  provided "direct"  comparisons of                                                               
Total  Government  Take  throughout  a  producing  field's  life.                                                               
"Calculating  this  involves  modeling   the  way  in  which  the                                                               
relevant fiscal  regime divides  the available  cash flow  from a                                                               
single  additional  new  field between  the  government  and  the                                                               
company investor." A  $35 per barrel "real terms"  price was used                                                               
in this  analysis "because we believe  that this is close  to the                                                               
central  planning assumption  that most  investors are  currently                                                               
using for the decision making.  Investors will always look at the                                                               
implication of  higher and  lower prices  for their  decisions as                                                               
well. We've also  modeled those and the conclusions  we draw from                                                               
that  for  Alaska  competitiveness   are  rather  similar  to  or                                                               
stronger  than   the  one's"  depicted   on  this   chart.  Total                                                               
Government Take,  as represented  "on the  vertical axis  of this                                                               
chart …  is a good  measure of the  share of the  total available                                                               
economic value of  the field that's captured by  a fiscal system.                                                               
It takes  full account of the  affects of tax rate,  tax credits,                                                               
and  all   of  the  mechanisms   inherent  in  each   system.  In                                                               
calculating  this   figure  for  a  typical   field,  you'll  get                                                               
something close  to a like for  like comparison of the  kind that                                                               
will   emerge   in   investor   portfolios   when   they   review                                                               
opportunities across this group."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley stated the chart  depicted the "total government take                                                               
for each  region on the vertical  and on the horizontal  the unit                                                               
technical  costs for  our typical  representative field  for each                                                               
area."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:40:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  noted that the  State's total government  take under                                                               
ELF "is third  highest" in the group. Under the  provisions of SB
305,  its  overall  take  would   increase  eight  percent.  This                                                               
"significant  change" would  place the  State "second  highest in                                                               
the  group".   CSSB  305  with   its  25/20  tax   structure  and                                                               
Progressivity  feature would,  at  a $35  barrel price,  increase                                                               
government  take   an  additional  three  percent   for  a  total                                                               
Government Take of  64 percent. The level of  take would increase                                                               
as barrel prices increased.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley pointed  out that Alaska's higher cost  base was also                                                               
illustrated on this graph. It  might be expected that the overall                                                               
relationship between "technical costs and  tax take would be some                                                               
kind of  inverse correlation. With higher  costs corresponding to                                                               
lower levels  of government take.  All of the things  being equal                                                               
that would  probably be the case,  but in reality a  more complex                                                               
relationship  exists.  Prospectivity,   field  size,  and  growth                                                               
potential also play  a strong role, and tax take  also depends on                                                               
choices  by the  government on  the tradeoff  between short  term                                                               
revenue and investment incentivization."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:42:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 11                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     High costs and lack of prospectivity compound the impact of                                                                
     Alaska's high overall government take                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Total Government Take versus Total Technical Costs                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     [This chart illustrates the government  take for various tax                                                               
     regimes, including Alaska's current  ELF and the proposed SB
     305  tax  structure, as  influenced  by  a field's  maturity                                                               
     level and field costs.]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated that this  graph expanded the  information on                                                               
the  graph  on page  10  to  include  a field's  maturity  level.                                                               
Alaska's current "positioning is "problematic"  as it is a mature                                                               
region  "with  a  relatively  high  unit cost  base  but  with  a                                                               
relatively  high  government  take.   The  fact  that  levels  of                                                               
reinvestment in  new exploration and development,  even under the                                                               
current system  are also fairly  low, adds to the  concern around                                                               
the potential impact of the new proposals."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley pointed  out that  under the  tax rates  and credits                                                               
proposed in the PPT legislation,  the total government take for a                                                               
new field "developed entirely by  a group of new investors" would                                                               
be similar to the take currently collected under ELF.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:43:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  remarked  that the  State's  long  term  forecast                                                               
predicted a  $40 barrel price. Other  economists predicted higher                                                               
prices.  Thus,  he asked  how  higher  prices would  affect  this                                                               
modeling.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:44:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley replied that the  rankings would not change. However,                                                               
under ELF and  SB 305, there would be  "some convergence" between                                                               
the Norwegian and Alaskan rates.  Were prices to decrease, Alaska                                                               
would  be number  one is  government take  due to  the regressive                                                               
nature of the State's royalty provisions at lower oil prices.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:44:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  furthered  his remarks  about  the  regressive  and                                                               
progressive elements of  the State's current and  proposed SB 305                                                               
tax structures.  The State's system  was "regressive in  a nature                                                               
not  duplicated in  other  OECD  tax regimes",  as  its level  of                                                               
government  take  increased  at  lower prices  and  decreased  at                                                               
higher  prices. "This  in  itself is  not  helpful in  supporting                                                               
investment decision making." The  Progressivity components of the                                                               
committee substitutes being  furthered by both the  House and the                                                               
Senate  would "produce  a pattern  of upside  progressiveness and                                                               
downside  regressiveness, which  is very  very unusual,"  and, in                                                               
his experience, "unique".                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley, reiterating that Alaska's  total government take was                                                               
only surpassed  by that  of Norway,  reminded the  Committee that                                                               
Norway had  "significantly more" economic potential  than Alaska.                                                               
The "exploration  prospectiveness" of oil reserves  off its coast                                                               
could  result in  it becoming  a major  new oil  and gas  region.                                                               
Norway's  three largest  oil and  gas  companies had  substantial                                                               
government ownership,  thus there  was "strategic  commitment" to                                                               
developing  those  offshore  resources.  Consequently  attracting                                                               
"international  competitiveness is  less of  a central  issue" to                                                               
the Norwegian government  than it would be for  other regions. Of                                                               
utmost  significance was  the fact  that Norway  had followed  "a                                                               
policy  of   measured  development   towards  its  oil   and  gas                                                               
resources". As  a result, "strategic control  and maximization of                                                               
government  take  tends  to dominate  over  stimulation  of  high                                                               
levels of new investment."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:47:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked the level  of private investment in Norway's                                                               
oil and gas industry.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley estimated  that 80 percent of  the ownership interest                                                               
in  Norway's three  largest oil  and gas  businesses was  held by                                                               
private entities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:47:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  was  confused  by Mr.  Bramley's  remarks  that                                                               
Alaska's current  system was  regressive in  nature and  that the                                                               
PPT with  its Progressivity  element would  introduce progressive                                                               
taxes.  This   was  contrary  to  the   Department  of  Revenue's                                                               
projections  which indicated  that the  State's total  government                                                               
take under PPT,  after the proposed severance  tax, property tax,                                                               
corporate income  tax, and the  federal income tax  were factored                                                               
in,  would remain  "fairly flat,  with a  very slight  regressive                                                               
nature to it". Therefore, he  requested further definition of the                                                               
term  "progressive  nature";  specifically in  regards  "to  what                                                               
level and then  at what magnitude it would begin  to affect their                                                               
economic models".                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:49:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley stated  that the  use  of the  terms regressive  and                                                               
progressive in  CRA's modeling  was used "in  the context  of the                                                               
relationship of  government take to overall  economic value". The                                                               
term progressive  would be used  to describe a scenario  in which                                                               
"the overall  economic value of  the underlying resource  goes up                                                               
and the fiscal  system produces a higher government  take at that                                                               
higher level  of economic potential".  The term  regressive would                                                               
describe  a  situation  in which  government  take  decreased  at                                                               
higher  prices. This  term would  also  refer to  a situation  in                                                               
which government take increased as prices decreased.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  continued that CRA's "analysis  is not fundamentally                                                               
different  directionally  from  the   ones  I've  seen  from  the                                                               
Administration" and other consultant's analyses.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:49:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  stated  that  "the   net  affect"  of  the  State's                                                               
royalties and  other "fundamentally regressive" tax  elements and                                                               
the progressive  element included in  CSSB 305 would,  in effect,                                                               
create  a  "u" shape:  at  low  prices  of  $20 per  barrel,  for                                                               
example,   the  State's   government  take   would  increase   to                                                               
approximately   80  percent   under  the   PPT.  The   "point  of                                                               
inflection"   under  the   provisions  of   CSSB  305   would  be                                                               
approximately $40 per barrel.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  addressed  investor   behavior.  They  would  first                                                               
identify a  range of prices  around a  current price in  order to                                                               
project what  might happen in  the future. The prospects  at both                                                               
the  progressive end  and  the regressive  end  of that  spectrum                                                               
would be an important consideration;  therefore the two scenarios                                                               
"would be aggregated  together" to provide the "bottom  line … or                                                               
expected value of an investment".                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:51:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  pointed out  that  the  regressive and  progressive                                                               
elements   contained  in   the  proposed   PPT  "is   in  itself,                                                               
fundamentally unhelpful.  It's very  very unusual and  it creates                                                               
an additional  pattern of uncertainty in  decision making because                                                               
of its unusualness".                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  a  question from  Senator  Stedman, Mr.  Bramley                                                               
affirmed that  the OECD region  in Australia being  referenced in                                                               
the comparisons was on Australia's northwest shelf.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman asked  regarding the  tax structure  utilized in                                                               
that region.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley   responded  that  its  tax   structure  included  a                                                               
corporate income  tax and  a special royalty  tax referred  to as                                                               
the petroleum resource  rent tax. This tax structure  was a "flat                                                               
tax" rather than a rate of return tax.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:53:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  communicated that the  oil and gas  industry tax                                                               
system in Alaska  had not, until recently, been  compared to that                                                               
of  Australia. At  some point,  he  hoped CRA  would provide  its                                                               
perspective on  the two  oil fields  being developed  in northern                                                               
central  Russia,   which  had  been   discussed  in   a  separate                                                               
presentation  by  Daniel Johnston,  the  oil  and gas  consultant                                                               
hired  by  the  Legislature.  Senator  Stedman  was  particularly                                                               
interested  in CRA's  viewpoint about  "the suitability  of those                                                               
[tax] regimes".                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:54:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  reiterated that the  OECD comparison  group utilized                                                               
in this presentation by CRA  were picked because they embodied "a                                                               
range of  risks and  rewards to investors"  that were  similar to                                                               
those   found   in   Alaska.  The   two   Russian   fields   were                                                               
"fundamentally different  from the  opportunities" in any  of the                                                               
areas in  the page 11 comparison  as "they are much  bigger". The                                                               
fact that  CRA had "taken  the view  that investors will  look at                                                               
economic  potential in  terms of  prospectivity as  a fundamental                                                               
part of their  decision making" is one of the  reasons that CRA's                                                               
analyses differed from others. CRA's  position was that investors                                                               
would be willing "to accept  higher levels of government take for                                                               
larger fields or lower costs  or greater growth prospects … those                                                               
things would have  a fundamental impact". Therefore,  CRA did not                                                               
consider the two large Russian  fields to "have the same economic                                                               
potential on which to make fiscal comparisons".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman communicated  he would  further this  discussion                                                               
separately  with Mr.  Bramley,  as he  thought  that the  Russian                                                               
fields he  was referring to  differed from those Mr.  Bramley had                                                               
in mind.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARIANNE  KAH, Chief  Economist, ConocoPhillips  agreed with  Mr.                                                               
Bramley's  remarks  about the  Russian  fields  provided the  two                                                               
fields   being  discussed   were   located   in  Arctic   Russia.                                                               
ConocoPhillips was  considering developing  a 750  million barrel                                                               
field in  Arctic Russia,  and, due  to the  immense size  of that                                                               
field, the company  would be willing to accept  higher tax rates.                                                               
Alaska's field sizes  were in the 30 to 50  million barrel range.                                                               
The tax rate must be "commensurate with the prospectivity".                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:56:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska's largest potential is in its producing fields,                                                                     
     heavy oil and gas resources: PPT 20/20 is a dis-incentive                                                                  
     to investment in these                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                      Alaska's Resource Potential                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
    Resource Type       Comparable       Incentivized by PPT                                                                    
                Size             20/20 proposal?                                                                              
    Producing Fields/   2 - 5 bn boe     Higher tax take is                                                                     
                                          a direct disincentive                                                                 
     Known Undeveloped                                                                                                          
     Resources:                                                                                                                 
     Conventional Oil         ~0.5 bn boe      Only small and/or                                                                
                                               new players have                                                                 
                         some incentive                                                                                         
     Known Undeveloped                                                                                                          
     Resources:                                                                                                                 
     Conventional Gas         6 - 8 bn boe     Higher tax take                                                                  
                                               is a direct                                                                      
                          disincentive                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                               Gas pipeline may                                                                 
                                               Transform                                                                        
                         attractiveness                                                                                         
     Known Undeveloped                                                                                                          
     Resources:                                                                                                                 
     Heavy Oil                5 bn boe         Higher   tax   may                                                               
     cause                                                                                                                      
     Serious delay to heavy oil development                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Exploration)             <1 bn bbl        Only small and/or                                                                
     Potential (YTF)          oil potential?   new players have                                                                 
                         some incentive                                                                                         
                              Gas potential                                                                                     
                              may be higher                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated that the  discussion about how the  PPT would                                                               
impact future  investment should  consider where  Alaska's future                                                               
resource potential might  be located. The table on  page 12 would                                                               
provide evidence that  "Alaska is in a  somewhat unusual position                                                               
of having the majority … of  its future resource potential in the                                                               
form  of  known  but  undeveloped hydrocarbons".  The  known  but                                                               
undeveloped   oil,   heavy   oil,    and   gas   resources   were                                                               
"significantly larger  than the resources likely  to be available                                                               
through  new  exploration  and through  undeveloped  conventional                                                               
oil. … The prospect of  higher government take" as proposed under                                                               
the  PPT   would  directly  impact   the  development   of  these                                                               
resources.  Reducing  the  level   of  government  take  on  "new                                                               
entrants  for  their  early developments"  would  not  assist  in                                                               
developing  resources  in  "areas   where  the  largest  pots  of                                                               
Alaska's potential actually lies".                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  stated  that CRA's  conclusion  from  its  analysis                                                               
"about  Alaska   investment  attractiveness,  is  that   the  new                                                               
proposals will inevitability reduce  future investment in oil and                                                               
gas".                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  pointed out that  even though the majority  of CRA's                                                               
study pertained  to SB 305,  their conclusion was that  the House                                                               
and  Senate   committee  substitutes   "with  higher   levels  of                                                               
government  tax  take,  would  reduce  that  attractiveness  even                                                               
further".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:58:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  understood  that  ConocoPhillips  had  originally                                                               
agreed  to the  20/20 percent  proposal presented  in SB  305. To                                                               
that  point,  he asked  the  reason  the  company had  agreed  to                                                               
something  which  contained  numerous "disincentives"  to  future                                                               
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  communicated that the  company has also  pondered its                                                               
decision in  that regard. "In  the broader context though  …. one                                                               
aspect  of   the  20/20  proposal"   that  was  agreed   upon  by                                                               
ConocoPhillips,  Exxon,  and  BP,  was that  it  would  lay  "the                                                               
groundwork  for  proceeding  to  the   next  step  with  the  gas                                                               
contract".   A  gas   pipeline  would   serve  to   "bring  large                                                               
investments in itself,  but it will also spawn  effectively a new                                                               
exploration and  development activity  on the Slope  with respect                                                               
of  exploring  for   both  gas  and  oil   combined".  Thus,  the                                                               
combination  of   the  benefits   derived  from  the   growth  in                                                               
investments,  jobs and  production  volumes  would outweigh  "the                                                               
downsides" of the 20/20 proposal.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde understood therefore  that ConocoPhillips felt that                                                               
a conventional gas pipeline would be attractive to investors.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles concurred.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:00:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson stated that in  November 2006, the State's citizens                                                               
would  be voting  on  whether  to adopt  a  ballot initiative  to                                                               
impose a gas reserves tax.  While he thought it "would profoundly                                                               
affect  the attractiveness  of Alaska",  he  understood that  its                                                               
affect  on new  resource  exploration  and development  companies                                                               
would differ from that on  existing lease holders. Thus, he asked                                                               
ConocoPhillips  to comment  on how  the adoption  of this  ballot                                                               
measure would affect the company.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  responded that  the adoption of  the gas  reserve tax                                                               
initiative  "would  definitely"  affect new  players  differently                                                               
than it  would affect  "the three  that would  be targeted  … the                                                               
biggest signal though that would go  out" by the adoption of that                                                               
initiative "would  be the fact that  we have a fiscal  tax regime                                                               
that  could  change  in  such   short  notice  through  a  ballot                                                               
process". Were it adopted, the  industry could be subjected to an                                                               
annual  billion  dollar  tax  increase.   While  it  might  "only                                                               
directly  affect  three  companies",   it  would  communicate  to                                                               
newcomers in  the State's resource  industry "that they  could be                                                               
subject to  some form of change  of that magnitude once  they had                                                               
operations on the ground".                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked how the  adoption of the measure would affect                                                               
existing  lease holders  in the  Prudhoe Bay  field; specifically                                                               
"the investment propensity" of those who  have "a big part of the                                                               
gas cap".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles communicated  that  a key  element  of the  company's                                                               
testimony today was  how taking "dollars away  from the industry"                                                               
could affect  investment. The adoption  of the PPT could  levy an                                                               
annual one  to two billion  dollar tax increase on  the industry.                                                               
This  would  affect  future investment  as  it  would  negatively                                                               
impact  the  amount  of capital  available  for  investment.  The                                                               
adoption  of the  gas reserve  tax could  levy an  additional tax                                                               
which would  further reduce  the amount  available to  invest. It                                                               
"would be another nail in the investment coffin".                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson communicated  that people  in support  of the  gas                                                               
reserve tax believe "it would be  an incentive to get that gas to                                                               
market". He asked Mr. Bowles' position on that line of thought.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles responded that ConocoPhillips  stated that "even if we                                                               
started welding  pipe the day  before the ballot  initiative came                                                               
up, we would still be subject  to that billion dollar a year tax,                                                               
effectively until gas sales started  possibly ten years later". A                                                               
gas  reserves  tax  could  not  be viewed  as  "an  incentive  to                                                               
starting actual work on the pipeline".                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:03:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman identified this as  being an area to which little                                                               
discussion  had occurred.  Numerous  competitive resource  basins                                                               
around the world included "relinquishment  provisions in a lot of                                                               
their leases". As a result,  industry must develop a field within                                                               
a particular  timeframe or lose  those leases. A lack  of similar                                                               
provisions  in  Alaska  leases  could   place  the  State  at  "a                                                               
competitive  disadvantage  for  the   flow  of  capital"  because                                                               
capital would be utilized in  areas with development time limits.                                                               
Rather  than suggesting  that similar  provisions be  included in                                                               
Alaska law,  he wished  to point  out that  such action  in other                                                               
resource  regions would  influence  "the flow  of  capital" on  a                                                               
worldwide basis. He  asked the testifiers to  address how others'                                                               
relinquishment provisions might affect on Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:04:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  acknowledged that the  OECD regions included  in the                                                               
comparisons  do   include  relinquishment  provisions   in  their                                                               
leases; however,  "they're generally  not as aggressive  in these                                                               
areas as  in areas  which have  production sharing  type contract                                                               
arrangements." He communicated that  rather than being a "driver"                                                               
of where  investments occur relinquishment provisions  would be a                                                               
consideration  in  areas  "at  the margin".  In  other  words,  a                                                               
competitive area "would attract capital".                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:05:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  a  question from  Co-Chair  Wilken, Mr.  Bramley                                                               
affirmed  that oil  and gas  reserves  in ANWR  and the  National                                                               
Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPR-A)  were purposefully excluded from                                                               
consideration in this presentation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:06:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  asked  whether CRA  had  considered  whether  the                                                               
investments "made  on planning,  permitting, and  construction of                                                               
the gas pipeline will be  subject to credits or deductions" under                                                               
the provisions of any of the PPT bills being discussed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley responded that this  issue was not a consideration in                                                               
this  analysis.  He agreed  with  Mr.  Bowles  "that it  is  self                                                               
evident  that it  would transform  attractiveness for  investment                                                               
simply because  of the affect  on incremental  economic potential                                                               
of opportunities  here in Alaska". This  presentation focused "on                                                               
the  affect   of  the  current   PPT  proposals"   under  current                                                               
conditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:07:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson asked  whether any  of the  PPT bills  would allow                                                               
"the  gas pipeline  development  costs  to be  a  deduction or  a                                                               
credit on the PPT taxes".                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green assumed the bills were "silent" on that issue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  identified  this as  an  important  consideration                                                               
going    forward;   as    such   activities    were   "interwoven                                                               
intrinsically".  Further  information  in this  regard  could  be                                                               
sought from the Administration.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:09:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green communicated that this  question could be added to                                                               
the set of questions being developed by the Committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:09:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     If Alaska wishes the new legislation to stimulate                                                                          
     investment, a new system that reduces total tax take would                                                                 
     be required                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Total Government Take versus Total Technical Costs                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     [This  chart  compared  remaining prospectivity  levels  for                                                               
     incremental  fields of  Alaska  under the  existing ELF  and                                                               
     under   a   20/20  PPT   as   compared   to  the   remaining                                                               
     prospectivity  levels of  other OCED  regions at  a $35  per                                                               
     barrel price.]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  expressed  that  CRA  was  not  in  a  position  to                                                               
recommend "the  appropriate level of government  take" in Alaska;                                                               
however,  the information  garnered from  this study  "led to  an                                                               
inescapable conclusion that the  balance of the current proposals                                                               
is slanted  more towards short  term revenue over  stimulation of                                                               
new investment to stem future production decline".                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley stressed  that in order "to have  reached a different                                                               
conclusion …  a system that  yielded total Government  Take lower                                                               
than the existing ELF" tax  structure would be required. While he                                                               
was  uncomfortable sharing  this  conclusion, he  hoped that  the                                                               
evidence presented supported it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:10:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  puzzled  about   having  to  develop  a  taxation                                                               
structure "less than" the existing  ELF tax structure, as ELF was                                                               
expected to generate zero tax revenue in the future.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:10:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley, hesitating to suggest  a taxation level, voiced that                                                               
the conclusion  reached by CRA  "is that the price  the existing"                                                               
ELF tax structure  "sets on Alaska investments  is already high".                                                               
The price that  would be required "to  stimulate more investment"                                                               
must be lower than that under ELF.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde reiterated that in  the foreseeable future, the tax                                                               
revenue generated  by ELF would be  zero. While a zero  tax would                                                               
encourage  investment,   "it  would  be  an   abrogation  of  our                                                               
Constitutional requirement".                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  acknowledged. CRA's  "analysis of the  investment is                                                               
analyzing only part of the  economic equation, and it's certainly                                                               
not analyzing any of the  political equation." The intent of this                                                               
study was  "to provide an  analysis of Alaska's positioning  on a                                                               
like  for  like basis".  CRA's  conclusions  were based  on  that                                                               
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:11:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman remarked  that  "unlike  the socialist  regimes"                                                               
which  have oil  and gas  resources,  Alaska does  "not have  the                                                               
ability  to   nationalize  our  relationship   and/or  relinquish                                                               
rights".  Were that  the  case,  the State  could  opt to  re-bid                                                               
current  leases and  "the  open market  would  set those  rates".                                                               
However, "as a steward of  the citizens' assets," determining the                                                               
proper tax structure is  difficult, particularly in consideration                                                               
of  recent   years'  global  marketplace  "adjustments   and  the                                                               
splitting   relationships   between    the   industry   and   the                                                               
governments". Other  regimes have moved "toward  more progressive                                                               
systems where  the splits stay more  constant". The consideration                                                               
of  whether to  lower the  State's taxes  should not  ignore such                                                               
events. Numerous factors, including the  control of and assess to                                                               
a basin,  influence the movement  of free  capital in and  out of                                                               
the North  Slope. The  process should be  one of  negotiation. As                                                               
Senator Bunde  stated, "we are  stewards of this one  time asset;                                                               
this  one time  finite resource  in the  ground that  citizens of                                                               
Alaska own". The  elements contained in ELF and  the proposed PPT                                                               
are  "the mechanisms"  through  which the  State  could sell  its                                                               
resources. The process would entail  "a sharing relationship with                                                               
industry and the federal government".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman identified  the  PPT "trend"  evolving from  the                                                               
Senate and  House as being a  tax rate ranging between  20 and 25                                                               
percent with  some Progressivity level. Projections  are that the                                                               
government  take under  ELF  would decline  from  the current  60                                                               
percent current to 52 percent over the next 15 years.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  concluded that  "the buyer  of the  asset always                                                               
feels  that he's  paying too  much and  the seller  of the  asset                                                               
always thinks he's selling it" for too little.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles deemed  Senator Stedman's  points to  align with  the                                                               
intent   of  ConocoPhillips'   presentation.  "The   geopolitical                                                               
environment is  one reason that  we do believe strongly  that the                                                               
OECD  countries probably  are the  best  comparison …  as far  as                                                               
competition out  there for  world wide  capital". In  response to                                                               
Senator Bunde's  concern, he  declared that "by  no means  are we                                                               
suggesting  that  taxes  should  be zero".  One  of  the  notable                                                               
objectives of this  discussion would be the  realization "that it                                                               
is  not an  elastic  system; taxes  do have  a  direct impact  on                                                               
investment  and  that   at  the  end  of  the  day   it  is  your                                                               
responsibility for  finding that right  balance". ConocoPhillips'                                                               
effort  revolved around  trying "to  communicate how  we see  the                                                               
cause   and  effect   of  tax   against   investment  in   volume                                                               
development".                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:16:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Why is CRA more pessimistic about investment than previous                                                                 
     testimony?                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        · Investors have choices, and more tax will drive some                                                                  
          capital away                                                                                                          
          -CRA 'portfolio pricing model' rather than 'threshold                                                                 
          model'                                                                                                                
        · Tax credits don't offset the impact of higher tax                                                                     
          rates                                                                                                                 
          -CRAs 'typical Alaskan field' shows clearly the                                                                       
          economic penalty of PPT 20/20                                                                                         
        · Fiscal structure biased towards tax credits likely to                                                                 
          be a dis-incentive for most investors                                                                                 
          - Tax credit bias erodes upside                                                                                       
          - High price environment means scale, efficient use of                                                                
          scarce human resource, is key factor                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        · Alaska's investment attractiveness low for current ELF                                                                
          levels of government take                                                                                             
       -PPT 20/20 is already a significant dis-incentive                                                                        
          -Higher rates and/or progressivity will compound the                                                                  
          impact on investment                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley reviewed the reasons  CRA's conclusions differed from                                                               
others.  As with  any increase  in the  price of  something, some                                                               
investors might accept  the tax increase while  others might not.                                                               
Capital would migrate  away from the State were the  tax level to                                                               
increase.  Total government  take  would be  "the primary  fiscal                                                               
driver"  in influencing  investor  behavior. The  effects of  tax                                                               
credits,  deductibility  of  capital  and other  effects  of  the                                                               
change were considered  in the study. The  determination was that                                                               
tax  credits  would  benefit  investors   but  that  benefit  "is                                                               
strongly outweighed by the proposed  higher tax rates". Investors                                                               
"would not  view the tax  credits and deductibility  in isolation                                                               
from those higher rates".                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  declared  that fiscal  structures  were  a  complex                                                               
issue.  The question  would be  which tax  structure an  investor                                                               
would prefer  when considering any "two  tax structures providing                                                               
the  same government  take" where  one is  more dependent  on tax                                                               
credits than  the other.  Not all investors  would make  the same                                                               
decision.  CRA believed  "that the  majority  of investors  would                                                               
prefer the system  that's more generous in its tax  rate and less                                                               
generous in its tax credits",  as tax credits would "erode upside                                                               
and secure  downside". The "main  constraint that  companies have                                                               
is not  their capital but  their qualified people.  Companies are                                                               
pushed  toward scale  and larger  projects …  and a  generous tax                                                               
rate is more effective at giving that than tax credits are."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley stated  that the  fundamental  consideration of  the                                                               
State's  "investment   attractiveness  is  the  context   of  its                                                               
underlying economic  potential". The conclusion of  the effort to                                                               
"rank Alaska's  fiscal attractiveness within the  OECD group" was                                                               
that "the price is already high".                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:19:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  stated that the  important question  left unanswered                                                               
was  "So what?"  should the  State worry  that investment  in the                                                               
State  would reduce  were the  PPT  enacted. The  answer to  that                                                               
question was uncertain. While the  State would be responsible for                                                               
balancing  revenue, investment  and growth,  future activity  was                                                               
difficult to predict.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:20:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     So what might the future look like? Some illustrative                                                                      
     numbers                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Tax Revenues to Alaska                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [This  graph  compared  tax revenues  Alaska  would  receive                                                               
     under  ELF  system  to  the   proposed  20/20  PPT  with  no                                                               
     production change as well as  to the proposed 20/20 PPT with                                                               
     reduced production from the year 2007 through 2026.]                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  stated  that,  while  no  one  could  "confidently"                                                               
predict  whether higher  taxes would  reduce investment  "and how                                                               
that  would in  turn  effect production  decline", some  possible                                                               
outcomes were illustrated on this page.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley explained  that the  vertical  axis represented  the                                                               
total  amount of  taxes paid  to the  State. The  horizontal axis                                                               
reflected the  timeline 2007 through  2026. The lower  graph line                                                               
indicated  the projected  tax revenue  generated by  ELF and  the                                                               
upper graph  line reflected revenue  projections of SB  305. Both                                                               
of these revenue  projections were based on a $35  per barrel oil                                                               
price  and the  "base  forecast of  production", which  projected                                                               
that by the year 2014  production would decrease to approximately                                                               
690,000  barrels   a  day   or  an   annual  "decline   rate"  of                                                               
approximately  three   percent.  This   decline  rate   was  more                                                               
optimistic than other forecasts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     What could this mean for Alaska? Some illustrative numbers                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Taxes: Gains        Investment              Jobs:                                                                          
     and Losses           Reduced            Lower Activity                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     2007-2011 +$700m    20% reduction       Direct Loss                                                                        
              Means $2-3 bn              500-1000                                                                               
                         lost over 10 years                                                                                     
     2012-2016 -$700m    $1bn lost from      Indirect Loss                                                                      
              Alaska GDP?                1500-3000                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley stated  that, as  depicted  on this  graph, the  PPT                                                               
would reduce  investment and thereby cause  production to decline                                                               
faster than  in the  base case  forecast. In  the short  term the                                                               
State's revenue  would increase;  however over time  the decrease                                                               
in production would reduce tax  revenue. Ongoing investment would                                                               
decline by  20 percent as a  result of the new  taxes. Production                                                               
decline  would be  two percent  per year  more than  in the  base                                                               
forecast. The State would gain  revenue until approximately 2012.                                                               
After that the production decline  would lower tax revenues under                                                               
those generated by ELF.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  attested that  500 to 1,000  industry jobs  would be                                                               
directly lost due to the  decline in investment "based on current                                                               
levels of  employment and spending".  Additional losses of  up to                                                               
3,000 service  industry jobs could  transpire. Along with  the 20                                                               
percent loss in capital spending, or  $2 to $3 billion over a ten                                                               
year period, "there would be  a significant affect on the State's                                                               
gross domestic  products (GDP). A conservative  estimate would be                                                               
for a  drop of a  minimal one billion  dollars over the  next ten                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley stressed  that a  debate  of these  issues would  be                                                               
beneficial as  others might  have a different  view. He  would be                                                               
surprised  however were  anyone to  expect the  overall level  of                                                               
investment  to remain  steady  or  increase as  a  result of  the                                                               
higher taxes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked how a  $50 per  barrel of oil  price would                                                               
affect revenue assumptions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  would not predict how  a $50 per barrel  price would                                                               
affect the  graph. However, "there  is no reason to  believe that                                                               
the underlying effect on investment  and production decline would                                                               
be  different". The  relative positions  would  remain the  same.                                                               
"The  fact of  a tradeoff  between declining  production and  the                                                               
higher tax rates would be inescapable".                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:24:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde again questioned the  reason a $35 per barrel price                                                               
was utilized in  the calculation, as the long  range forecast was                                                               
$40 a barrel.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley expressed  that CRA  determined  $35 to  be in  "the                                                               
center  of  the  range  that  investors  are  considering".  Some                                                               
investors might invest at a  higher price and others might invest                                                               
at a lower price.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  concluded  from   the  Resource  Potential  table                                                               
depicted  on  page  11  that  a higher  tax  would  "drive  away"                                                               
investment   capital.  However,   this   was   contrary  to   the                                                               
information  presented  in the  Prudhoe  Bay  and Kuparuk  "Gross                                                               
Capital Spend  vs. Severance Tax  Rate" charts  discussed earlier                                                               
by  Mr. Bowles.  Those charts  indicated that  capital investment                                                               
was declining under ELF.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles stated that the  graph lines on the two aforementioned                                                               
graphs were  incorrectly labeled.  The correct scenario  was that                                                               
the  capital investment  in both  those fields  had increased  as                                                               
their ELF severance tax rate declined.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman pondered "the  correlation between the escalating                                                               
oil prices"  during the last  two years  "and the drive  for more                                                               
capital expenditures".  It seemed that  at times of  high prices,                                                               
the  industry  would  attempt to  "expand  their  production  and                                                               
production capabilities to service  that demand and capture those                                                               
higher sales".  To that point, he  asked how much of  that effect                                                               
was reflected on the charts.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:27:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles  responded  that  this element  was  one  reason  the                                                               
comparison between  the activity in  Prudhoe Bay and  Kuparuk was                                                               
provided. The effect  of increasing prices would  have applied to                                                               
both fields;  however, as reflected  at the Kuparuk  field, there                                                               
was "a  very direct correlation to  reduction in tax and  an even                                                               
dramatic  affect in  investment  increase".  Senator Stedman  was                                                               
correct  that in  the overall  scenario, more  investment in  the                                                               
industry  was  going into  oil  and  gas development  around  the                                                               
world. "That capital  would flow to where the  best returns are".                                                               
The Kuparuk chart  provided evidence "that the  tax structure has                                                               
been creating  a very favorable  investment scenario  and dollars                                                               
are flowing to it as a result".                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:29:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 17                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
    Increasing Alaska's oil and gas taxes will have a price                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · We recognize the dilemma of balancing revenues and                                                                         
     investment                                                                                                                 
   · Alaska is mature, but has undeveloped potential                                                                            
        o Low prospectivity and new field size                                                                                  
        o High cost base                                                                                                        
        o BUT huge known resources, heavy oil especially                                                                        
   · Current fiscal proposals do not help competitiveness of                                                                    
     OECD peer group                                                                                                            
   · Loss of Competitiveness will mean less investment and lower                                                                
     production.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  acknowledged  "the dilemma  of  balancing  revenue,                                                               
investment, and growth". CRA "has  focused on the investment side                                                               
of the  equation". "Alaska is a  mature province but one  with an                                                               
enormous remaining  potential. The  challenges of  accessing that                                                               
potential are  also enormous,  but because  … the  potential lies                                                               
largely  in  known  resources  rather   than  in  exploration,  a                                                               
competitive  fiscal  regime  can  provide  effective  support  in                                                               
turning speculative  resources into  real tax  paying production.                                                               
The current  fiscal proposals do not  help competitiveness verses                                                               
your  international  peer  group,  and will  make  investment  in                                                               
Alaska  less  attractive  than  it  is  at  the  moment.  Reduced                                                               
investment will mean fewer jobs and  will in time result in lower                                                               
production  and lower  tax revenue.  I belief  that neither  more                                                               
analysis nor the passage of time will change that conclusion."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley concluded his presentation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:30:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman brought  up the  prospect of  there being  a gas                                                               
pipeline  on the  North  Slope. He  understood  that the  gasline                                                               
would work  in conjunction with  an oil  line. To that  point, he                                                               
asked  whether  an  analysis  had been  conducted  on  where  the                                                               
deflection point  would be  for the two  lines. He  also recalled                                                               
that 300,000 barrels  of oil a day would be  required to maintain                                                               
a viable  oil line. Therefore,  his question was whether  the PPT                                                               
would result in  a decline in oil which would  jeopardize the oil                                                               
line's  operation. Loss  of the  oil  line would  negate the  gas                                                               
line's feasibility.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:31:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  qualified that a threat  to the viability of  the oil                                                               
pipeline should not be garnered  from this testimony. What should                                                               
be derived from  this discussion was that there was  "clearly … a                                                               
direct cause and  effect between taxes and  investment in barrels                                                               
and whether or not the critical  level on TAPS is 300,000 or some                                                               
other  number that's  yet to  be worked  out and  optimized." The                                                               
overriding conclusion of this presentation  should be that "it is                                                               
strictly  a policy  call"  as  to what  the  State  should do  to                                                               
balance "the  income to  the State  from State  resources against                                                               
the continual investment of dollars  in the State". The impact on                                                               
short and  long term  tax revenues to  Alaska which  might result                                                               
from the  implementation of the PPT,  as presented on page  15 of                                                               
Mr. Bramley's  presentation, were  enlightening. He  seconded Mr.                                                               
Bramley's  suggestion  that  other consultants  should  be  asked                                                               
"their  view of  what  is the  potential impact  of  the loss  of                                                               
investment in volumes".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  pointed out that  ConocoPhillips was one  of the                                                               
first companies to  agree to the 20/20 tax  structure proposed in                                                               
SB 305.  However, ConocoPhillips' television  advertising touting                                                               
"no new taxes  or increased taxes" do not appear  to reflect that                                                               
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:33:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles stated  that the  intent  of the  advertising was  to                                                               
further  the  awareness  of the  correlation  between  taxes  and                                                               
investments  in  the  State. The  company  would  support  "going                                                               
forward with  something that the  industry can see as  a balanced                                                               
tax structure; something that would  allow not only a good strong                                                               
continual investment in the State  but also the investment in the                                                               
gas line  and what additional  investment in jobs will  come from                                                               
the  gas   line  development".  The  company's   advertising  was                                                               
designed to place "investment in  perspective of not only oil but                                                               
what comes out of it in the way of gas development".                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  communicated that  that was  not the  message he                                                               
garnered from the television commercials.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:34:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles appreciated  Senator Hoffman's  and others  feedback.                                                               
Such  input would  be  considered as  the  Company continued  its                                                               
effort  "to develop  a communication  package" that  would convey                                                               
"the correct message to Alaskans".                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:35:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  noted that the  commercials appeared to  have been                                                               
filmed the previous summer. Were  that the case, "the message was                                                               
already  there even  before" the  Legislature had  been aware  of                                                               
"what the numbers were going to be" in the PPT proposal.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 10:35:51 AM / 10:36:51 AM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green informed the Committee  that the plan would be for                                                               
the  Committee  to reconvene  after  the  11:00 AM  Senate  Floor                                                               
Session.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:37:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARIANNE KAH, Chief  Economist, ConocoPhillips identified herself                                                               
as   representing    "the   corporate   planning    function   of                                                               
ConocoPhillips".  Because she  assisted  the  company's Board  of                                                               
Directors  in  developing  its  investment  strategy,  she  could                                                               
provide insight  as to how  the PPT  tax being proposed  might be                                                               
viewed  by investors  and how  it might  change their  investment                                                               
behavior.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah stated that the primary  focus of her remarks would be to                                                               
counter consultant  reports which  have implied that  the State's                                                               
tax  rate  could   be  changed  without  having   any  impact  on                                                               
investment. She  reviewed her written  remarks (copy on  file) as                                                               
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE: Ms. Kah's testimony was accompanied by a Power Point                                                                     
presentation. While a copy of the presentation was not provided,                                                                
its contents were detailed in Ms. Kah's narrative.]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Investment  Criteria:  Let  me  start  by  showing  you  the                                                               
     general criteria  we use at corporate  headquarters to value                                                               
     upstream  investment  opportunities.  The  first  factor  we                                                               
     generally consider  is the prospectivity  of the  country or                                                               
     opportunity.  We   would  consider  such  elements   as  the                                                               
     maturity  of  the  area,  potential  field  size,  remaining                                                               
     reserves and  the quality of  the reservoirs and  crude oil.                                                               
     There  are also  a number  of places  around the  world that                                                               
     have known reserves  but they are difficult  to develop. The                                                               
     larger  the size  of those  reserves, the  more feasible  it                                                               
     will be to economically develop them.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The second factor  we generally consider is the  cost of the                                                               
     region  or  opportunity.  This  would  include  exploration,                                                               
     development and  production costs as well  as transportation                                                               
     costs to bring the crude to market.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  third criteria  that  is  used to  judge  the value  of                                                               
     opportunities is  the cycle  time or the  amount of  time it                                                               
     takes  from exploration  to first  production. The  value of                                                               
     the  project is  highly  dependent upon  whether  it can  be                                                               
     brought to the market quickly  or whether it takes 7-8 years                                                               
     or longer before first production.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The fourth factor  we consider is the  attractiveness of the                                                               
     tax  and   fiscal  terms  and   whether  or  not   they  are                                                               
     commensurate with  the prospectivity and cost  of the region                                                               
     or opportunity.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  fifth  and  last  factor we  consider  is  whether  the                                                               
     country has a  strong rule of law  and efficient regulations                                                               
     for  energy  development.  The stability  of  the  political                                                               
     regime  and  the  fiscal  terms   are  also  very  important                                                               
     considerations  in terms  of  the degree  of  risk that  the                                                               
     value  will  turn out  to  be  significantly lower  than  we                                                               
     anticipated.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     With  that  said,  let  me  show you  how  we  would  assess                                                               
     Alaska's competitiveness using these  criteria. I will start                                                               
     with an overview  of all of these criteria  and then provide                                                               
     more detail on a few of them.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Investment  Criteria  with   Alaska  Rating:  Starting  with                                                               
     prospectivity, CRA has already  showed that Alaska has fewer                                                               
     and smaller field sizes than  even the other mature areas in                                                               
     OECD countries. The crude quality  is moderately high sulfur                                                               
     and getting heavier. These are negatives.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska   also   has   high  exploration,   development   and                                                               
     production costs,  and a long  cycle time to get  to markets                                                               
     given  Arctic  drilling   conditions  and  limited  drilling                                                               
     seasons.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The strong  rule of  law and  political stability  have been                                                               
     positive factors that explain why  we have been investing in                                                               
     Alaska all  these years.  However, we  are now  concerned at                                                               
     the prospects  of changing the tax  regime after investments                                                               
     have  been  made  without grandfathering  these  investments                                                               
     under  the   tax  regime  that   was  in  effect   when  the                                                               
     investments were  undertaken. The  worst thing that  you can                                                               
     do to an  investor is to change the rules  of the game after                                                               
     the investment  is made. This significantly  raises Alaska's                                                               
     risk  profile and  reduces the  potential attractiveness  of                                                               
     investing there.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:41:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Global  Average   Commercial  Discovery  Size:   Looking  at                                                               
     prospectivity  in greater  detail, this  slide compares  the                                                               
     average  commercial discovery  size in  Alaska with  various                                                               
     countries around  the world.  Areas with  high prospectivity                                                               
     can  generally assess  higher tax  rates, while  maintaining                                                               
     investment.  The Alaska  North Slope,  however, has  limited                                                               
     prospectivity as  compared to many  parts of the  world. Tax                                                               
     rates need to reflect that.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     But  it  is  also  important to  acknowledge  that  although                                                               
     exploration  will  continue  to   play  a  role  in  halting                                                               
     Alaska's production decline,  it will be a  small one. Based                                                               
     on the State's forecast,  exploration will account for about                                                               
     3% of  production over the next  10 years and about  8% over                                                               
     the next  20 years. Known  discoveries which have yet  to be                                                               
     developed or are economically challenged,  also play a small                                                               
     part in Alaska's future.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  core legacy  fields such  as Prudhoe  and Kuparuk  will                                                               
     still produce over  80% of the total  North Slope production                                                               
     in 2015,  providing the base  infrastructure on  which these                                                               
     smaller  fields  smaller  fields  will  depend.  Significant                                                               
     capital will  be required  to maintain  this infrastructure,                                                               
     as  well as,  in-field drilling  and well  work to  mitigate                                                               
     decline. Discovered  heavy oil  resources would  be included                                                               
     in   this  category.   However,   the  State's   consultants                                                               
     acknowledged  that  technology limitations  and  development                                                               
     costs will constrain heavy oil  production in the near term,                                                               
     and it could be many  years before this resource reaches its                                                               
     production  potential. The  technology  required to  develop                                                               
     this  resource will  require  huge  expenditures, which  the                                                               
     long-term major producers, such  as ConocoPhillips, are more                                                               
     likely to make than smaller companies.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Over  the   next  10  years,   approximately  100%   of  the                                                               
     investment  in existing  fields, 100%  of the  investment in                                                               
     known   discoveries,  and   probably  about   half  of   the                                                               
     exploration  investment   (or  about  98.5%  of   the  total                                                               
     investment over  the next decade)  will come  from companies                                                               
     that are  already here.  If you  are interested  in Alaska's                                                               
     future,  you are  interested in  seeing  the major  existing                                                               
     players continue to invest here.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:42:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked whether NPR-A and ANWR oil and gas reserves                                                                 
were included in the company's future Alaska prospectivity                                                                      
considerations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kah  understood  those  fields  were  not  included  in  the                                                               
company's prospectivity review. The  information presented by the                                                               
company was based  on estimates provided by  the State Department                                                               
of Revenue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:42:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Increasing  Production   Costs:  This  slide   compares  the                                                               
     production costs  (increases severance  but no  other taxes)                                                               
     of all  of the major  regions in  ConocoPhillips' portfolio.                                                               
     Alaska  is the  highest cost  region in  our portfolio.  And                                                               
     costs in  Alaska are rising at  a faster rate than  in other                                                               
     regions,  in part  because of  the aging  infrastructure and                                                               
     declining  field size.  Cost  also needs  to  be taken  into                                                               
     account when  setting the tax  take. The countries  with the                                                               
     lowest  costs can  afford  to have  higher  tax rates  while                                                               
     remaining  competitive.  Similarly,  higher  cost  countries                                                               
     need to offset these conditions with lower tax takes.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  - High  Cost, High  Tax: My  next slide  shows total                                                               
     capital  and operating  costs as  a  function of  government                                                               
     take for about 30 countries/stated  in the world. This data,                                                               
     representing costs  from 1994  to 2003,  was taken  from the                                                               
     Wood Mackenzie  2004 "Global  Oil and  Gas Risks  and Reward                                                               
     Study" and  was calculated  at a $35  per barrel  price. The                                                               
     study included more countries but  we removed the ones where                                                               
     the government  was carried through exploration  in response                                                               
     to   the   Legislature's  consultant,   Daniel   Johnston's,                                                               
     criticism  of Wood  Mackenzie for  not  accounting for  this                                                               
     carried equity in their government take calculation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     As  can be  seen, there  are  four quadrants  shown on  this                                                               
     chart. The one  on the bottom left shows  countries that are                                                               
     trying to attract investment. They  have low costs and still                                                               
     maintain low rates  of government take. The  quadrant on the                                                               
     top left contains  low-cost countries that are  then able to                                                               
     maintain  high tax  rates while  remaining competitive.  The                                                               
     quadrant on  the bottom  right contains  high-cost countries                                                               
     but  they compensate  for their  high  costs by  maintaining                                                               
     lower  tax rates.  The quadrant  on the  top right  contains                                                               
     counties  that have  high costs  and  high taxes.  Countries                                                               
     that  position  themselves  in this  quadrant  may  not  get                                                               
     sufficient  investment   since  their  tax  rates   are  not                                                               
     commensurate with their cost structure.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     This plot  also shows  that there are  inverse relationships                                                               
     between  Government  take  and Total  Costs.  As  previously                                                               
     mentioned, high-cost  countries often lower their  tax rates                                                               
     to  remain competitive.  The lower  line tends  to represent                                                               
     net   crude-importing  countries   who   want  to   minimize                                                               
     investment.  The  upper line  tends  to  represent net  oil-                                                               
     exporting countries.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska under the  ELF is shown as the Red  Triangle. The PPT                                                               
     will move  Alaska into the  High-Cost, High-Tax  Quadrant at                                                               
     the same  time that costs are  rising at a faster  rate than                                                               
     in other locations.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This  chart  also  shows  with   Green  Triangles  the  OECD                                                               
     countries  that CRA  believes  are  more appropriate  peers.                                                               
     Peer areas such  as the Gulf of Mexico and  the UK North Sea                                                               
     are still  significantly more favorable  investment regimes.                                                               
     The high  cost in the  Arctic and  the types of  fields that                                                               
     are  likely to  be found  suggest that  the proposed  fiscal                                                               
     regime  could detract,  rather  than encourage,  significant                                                               
     additional investment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kah  specified  that  the  horizontal  axis  on  the  charts                                                               
reflected total  operating and capital  costs. The  vertical axis                                                               
reflected  development  only  government  take  and  net  present                                                               
value.  The purpose  of this  information would  be "to  show the                                                               
relationship  between cost  and  overall  government take".  OECD                                                               
countries  tend to  fall  into  the lower  left  quadrant on  the                                                               
chart. The PPT under SB  305, and the additional provisions added                                                               
by  CSSB  305 would  move  Alaska  into  the high  cost/high  tax                                                               
quadrant. This would likely result in "reduced investment".                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman asked  regarding  the  definition of  government                                                               
take  in   relation  to  the  development   only/government  take                                                               
percentages  depicted on  the chart.  The State's  analyses would                                                               
indicate that  Alaska's government take  under CSSB 305  would be                                                               
approximately 60 percent.  Thus, he was interested  in the reason                                                               
the  graph line  depicted  on  the chart  did  not  have "a  more                                                               
vertical" upward trend to it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:46:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  clarified that the vertical  slope of the line  would be                                                               
more pronounced  were cost increases excluded;  however the chart                                                               
was intended  to demonstrate  that costs  would increase  "at the                                                               
same time".  The slope  of the  line would  also be  elevated had                                                               
such things  as the tax credits  and other incentives in  the PPT                                                               
been excluded  from the calculations.  In summary, the  chart was                                                               
developed  to  reflect how  an  investor  such as  ConocoPhillips                                                               
would make development decisions on existing fields.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:46:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  was puzzled that ConocoPhillips'  chart depicted                                                               
the government take  under ELF to be approximately  60 percent. A                                                               
60  or 61  percent level  of  government take  would be  expected                                                               
under  CSSB 305.  Therefore, he  asked whether  the industry  was                                                               
anticipating "just  a slight increase  vertical" to  result under                                                               
CSSB 305.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah reminded Senator Stedman  that the company's calculations                                                               
did not  exactly match those  of the Legislature; such  things as                                                               
the starting  rates even differed.  Thus, rather  that guessimate                                                               
the differences,  the entities should  work together  to identify                                                               
the  reasons  that  the  numbers  differ.  "Clearly  we  are  not                                                               
comparing the exact same things."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:48:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bramley  specified that  the calculations  on this  chart had                                                               
been  calculated  differently  as  they  included  "a  discounted                                                               
government take. In other words, in  doing this analysis … a year                                                               
by year  discount rate,  as an investor  would do,"  was applied.                                                               
That  "would indeed  have  that  effect of  shifting  all of  the                                                               
points   upwards."  The   analysis   included   in  his   earlier                                                               
presentation and the information in  most other estimates had not                                                               
been discounted.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:48:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  asked whether  the  chart  could be  redone  to                                                               
reflect the provisions of CSSB 305 rather than SB 305.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah and Mr. Bramley replied in the affirmative.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:49:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman, noting that OECD  countries were depicted on the                                                               
chart, asked the goals of that organization.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah expressed  that OECD countries were simply  "the total of                                                               
all  the developed  countries in  the  world", although  recently                                                               
Korea  and   Mexico,  which   were  once   considered  developing                                                               
countries, had joined  the group. The OCED  countries included in                                                               
this analysis were those which  had a similar "political risk" as                                                               
Alaska.  They were  also chosen  in terms  of maturity  and field                                                               
sizes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska - High Cost, High  Tax (with prospectivity): Now I am                                                               
     showing  you  the  same  slide  but  adding  in  bubbles  to                                                               
     indicate the  prospectivity of some of  these countries. You                                                               
     can see  that a number of  the countries that have  high tax                                                               
     takes also  score high  in prospectivity.  That is  why they                                                               
     can keep tax rates high and still be competitive.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The other  point I wanted to  make about this chart  is that                                                               
     the  Governor's consultant  assessed the  competitiveness of                                                               
     Alaska's  tax  rates by  comparing  tax  rates of  different                                                               
     regimes around the world applied  to similar-sized fields in                                                               
     all locations.  That is  not the way  investors look  at it.                                                               
     When  we compare  investments in  Russia versus  Alaska, for                                                               
     example, we compare the prospects  of accessing a very large                                                               
     field with  very high tax  rates in Russia versus  finding a                                                               
     much  smaller field  with  lower tax  rates  in Alaska.  The                                                               
     greater  prospectivity  in  Russia may  compensate  for  the                                                               
     higher tax rates. Thus, it  is not meaningful to compare the                                                               
     competitiveness of Alaskan tax  terms with Russia's terms or                                                               
    those in Azerbaijan and Angola at the same field sizes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah noted that this information was also based on the Woods                                                                 
Mackenzie study earlier referenced.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Higher  Taxes  Will Reduce  Investment:  I  will now  switch                                                               
     gears and talk about a concern  I have with the testimony of                                                               
     all of the state's consultants.  They would have you believe                                                               
     that  you   can  raise  tax  rates   without  concern  about                                                               
     substantially  reducing  investment  or  production  in  the                                                               
     state. This flies in the  face of economic reality. To quote                                                               
     a phrase  from Dr.  Margo Thorning,  the Chief  Economist of                                                               
     the  American  Council on  Capital  Formation,  "one of  the                                                               
     axioms  of  public  finance  scholars is  that  if  you  tax                                                               
     something, you get less of it".                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah was particularly concerned that other consultants had                                                                   
communicated there would be little impact from increased taxes.                                                                 
A substantial increase in taxes would impact investments.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:51:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     There are  three reasons  why higher  tax rates  will reduce                                                               
     investment. The first  is that there will be  less cash flow                                                               
     available to re-invest. Another  less obvious reason is that                                                               
     you  have   changed  the   risk/reward  balance.   You  will                                                               
     effectively  increase the  marginal cost  of production  and                                                               
     thereby  lower   the  rewards,  while   at  the   same  time                                                               
     increasing  the  perception  of   risk  that  the  rules  of                                                               
     investment  will  be  changed after  investments  are  made.                                                               
     Making  the  tax rate  too  progressive  in a  higher  price                                                               
     environment also negatively  impacts the risk/reward balance                                                               
     by   shaving    off   the    benefits   of    better   times                                                               
     disproportionately  more  than  helping  in  a  lower  price                                                               
     environment.  Our industry  invests a  tremendous amount  of                                                               
     capital  on projects  with long  lead times  and significant                                                               
     exploration,  technical, price  and economic  risk. We  need                                                               
     the tax system  to be stable and to allow  us to keep enough                                                               
     upside   that  we   can  earn   adequate  returns   for  our                                                               
     shareholders  on  average over  the  long  price cycles  our                                                               
     industry experiences.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The third reason why higher  taxes will reduce investment is                                                               
     that Alaska  will be  viewed as a  less attractive  place to                                                               
     invest and capital  will migrate to countries  that have tax                                                               
     regimes commensurate with their  cost and prospectivity. The                                                               
     state  may  also  receive  less  investment  from  long-time                                                               
     investors  who believe  they have  been treated  unfairly by                                                               
     the  state in  the transition  to a  new tax  regime by  not                                                               
     being  given due  consideration to  recent investments  made                                                               
     with different fiscal regime expectations.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     There are  a growing  number of  countries around  the world                                                               
     who  have  increased their  tax  rates  in this  high  price                                                               
     environment, which is probably  making you thing that Alaska                                                               
     can   still  be   competitive  despite   the  proposed   tax                                                               
     increases.  However,  private   investors  will  shift  from                                                               
     investing in  conventional oil in  all of these  places with                                                               
     higher tax rates  to investing in LNG,  downstream and other                                                               
     energy  projects that  have more  favorable  tax terms.  For                                                               
     example,  our  company is  now  more  willing to  invest  in                                                               
     downstream   and  infrastructure   projects  than   we  were                                                               
     historically when we believed  that upstream investments had                                                               
     higher and  less risky returns. If  current trends continue,                                                               
     conventional oil  will end up  being the domain  of national                                                               
     oil  companies  who  have  lower  return  requirements  than                                                               
     private investors.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     And finally,  capital will flow  out of the  energy industry                                                               
     if  tax rates  rise to  the point  that the  energy industry                                                               
     looks less attractive than other industries.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:53:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman asked  the government  take for  oil and  gas in                                                               
Libya.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bramley  could  not recall  Libya's  exact  government  take                                                               
percentage;  however, it  was  "at the  high  end" of  government                                                               
takes  of countries  having a  "production  sharing" tax  regime.                                                               
That type of tax regime  was fundamentally "a different structure                                                               
than  the tax  royalty regime"  in  Alaska and  other areas.  "In                                                               
terms of economic potential", a  like for like comparison between                                                               
Alaska and  Libya could not  be drawn as  Libya had a  lower cost                                                               
base and  larger fields.  In addition its  fields were  closer to                                                               
the   market  than   Alaska's.   "The   fundamentals  are   quite                                                               
different."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah communicated that while  ConocoPhillips would be resuming                                                               
activities in Libya, its concentration  would be on the assets it                                                               
had  before the  Libyan government  imposed new  sanctions. Those                                                               
assets, with  a 200,000 barrel  per day production, were  not big                                                               
fields.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:54:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman stated  that the Libyan field  production in 2004                                                               
and 2005, as  reflected on the chart, indicated  that the average                                                               
government  take  for  Libya  exceeded   90  percent.  "That's  a                                                               
substantial government take number…"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah pointed out that that  was "an exact example of why we're                                                               
not  investing  as  much  in upstream,  and  we're  investing  in                                                               
downstream and  infrastructure". ConocoPhillips could  not invest                                                               
with those sorts of returns.  She surmised that "the Independents                                                               
can't either.  They have a  higher cost  of capital than  us; and                                                               
therefore they should have higher  return requirements. I believe                                                               
that  only like  the  Chinese national  oil  companies and  other                                                               
state oil  companies would be able  to invest in a  sustained way                                                               
at….those lack of returns."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  stated that  the  Committee  would recess  until                                                               
after  the  Senate floor  session.  Ms.  Kah would  continue  her                                                               
presentation at that time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RECESS TO CALL OF THE CHAIR 10:56:01 AM / 12:31:00 PM                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  continued reviewing the  power point  presentation slide                                                               
titled   "Why  higher   taxes  would   reduce  investment".   The                                                               
conclusion is  that higher taxes  would reduce  industry's "after                                                               
tax cash  flow so we  have less money  to invest; it  changes the                                                               
risk/reward  balance   in  Alaska;  and  also   capital  will  go                                                               
elsewhere." Capital  would go to  other countries in  a company's                                                               
portfolio and to  other energy sources … because  the company has                                                               
determined  that  "with increased  tax  rates  in some  countries                                                               
around the  world that  we can't invest  profitably in  them. And                                                               
finally  our entire  industry is  going  to lose  capital if  tax                                                               
rates were to  price our industry out of the  market and we don't                                                               
get acceptable enough returns for our shareholders."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:31:48 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken agreed  with  the argument  that  "when you  tax                                                               
something you  are going  to get  less of  it". His  question was                                                               
whether "the general point"  of ConocoPhillips's presentation was                                                               
to the specific impact of  the 25/20 tax structure proposed under                                                               
CSSB 305 or whether it  took into consideration other elements of                                                               
the bill such as credits.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah qualified that she was  speaking to the entire bill. "The                                                               
tax credits  definitely do not  offset the much higher  tax rate.                                                               
The  overall tax  rate  is far  more important  in  terms of  the                                                               
economics, and certainly at this price  level, it's a five to one                                                               
ratio of being more important."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken cited there having  been "general agreement among                                                               
the Governor  and you folks at  the 20 percent rate  and then the                                                               
other four  or five major pieces.  So what we are  really talking                                                               
about at this table is 25 or  20. So that difference is what your                                                               
concern  is …that  that marginal  difference is  what's going  to                                                               
drive investment away."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kah clarified  that she  had  concerns about  the 20/20  tax                                                               
proposal in  SB 305. Whether  or not  it was the  right strategy,                                                               
"companies  reluctantly agreed  to that  just to  get to  the gas                                                               
deal.  But really  it's on  the outer  edge of  acceptability and                                                               
won't encourage investment".                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde recalled  discussions  in which  the industry  had                                                               
urged for  "certainty" in  a tax structure.  To that  point, were                                                               
the State's tax regime to  include "a re-opener every five years,                                                               
perhaps  we'd approach  it  a different  way."  However, the  tax                                                               
proposal  under  consideration would  not  have  a re-opener  for                                                               
thirty  years   or  more.   "That  has   to  factor   into  these                                                               
discussions."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:34:19 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah concurred.  "There is certainly a value  to certainty and                                                               
I  believe we  are  taking that  into account  when  we view  the                                                               
overall fiscal package."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     COP  Major Upstream  Projects: While  I  believe there  will                                                               
     likely  be a  long-term  adverse impact  on investment  from                                                               
     rising  tax  takes  around  the  world,  let  me  bring  the                                                               
     discussion back  to corporate  allocation decisions  we face                                                               
     in the next 15 years.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This slide  represents the pipeline of  upstream investments                                                               
     ConocoPhillips  is pursuing  in  the next  5  years. We  are                                                               
     planning on  continuing investments in our  base legacy OECD                                                               
     areas, such as Alaska. But  we also are planning investments                                                               
     in global gas and  other international areas. Investments in                                                               
     Alaska must  be able  to compete  with investments  in these                                                               
     other  areas. The  tax rate  needs to  be commensurate  with                                                               
     Alaska's  high cost  and low  prospectivity  to ensure  this                                                               
     state  maintains  its  important  place  in  our  investment                                                               
     portfolio.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah stated that were the  State's tax regime to change "in an                                                               
unfavorable  way",  ConocoPhillips  might be  required  "to  make                                                               
tough choices" about  which of the projects in  its portfolio "go                                                               
forward, which get deferred".                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:35:25 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde stated that the  "rhetorical question" is, were the                                                               
State  to  guarantee  a  15/20  tax  rate,  could  ConocoPhillips                                                               
"guarantee  us a  certain amount  of investment  in the  next ten                                                               
years. Certainty goes both ways."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah acknowledged the underlying message in the question.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Portfolio  Ranking: Another  concern I  have with  the state                                                               
     consultants' assessment  that Alaska can raise  its tax rate                                                               
     without  hurting  investment  is their  implicit  assumption                                                               
     that all projects with a  positive net present value will be                                                               
     undertaken. That  assumes that there is  unlimited human and                                                               
     financial  capital.  Our  shareholders expect  companies  to                                                               
     exercise  capital discipline  and  to  avoid doing  marginal                                                               
     projects.  We  also  have  limited  manpower  and  focus  on                                                               
     projects that have sufficient scale  to make a difference to                                                               
     the company.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     As indicated in  this concept slide, when  Alaska raises its                                                               
     tax rates,  some projects, like  Alaska project  number one,                                                               
     will still be  in the competitive range but it  may be moved                                                               
     down to a  lower ranking than other projects  the company is                                                               
     planning on,  such as  upstream project  number one  and the                                                               
     downstream project  shown here. Other projects,  like Alaska                                                               
     project  number two  could slip  from  being competitive  to                                                               
     being  deferred. And  finally,  some  projects, like  Alaska                                                               
     project  number  three  could slip  into  the  uncompetitive                                                               
     range.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  stressed that,  were taxes  increased, not  all projects                                                               
having  a  net present  value  above  zero would  be  undertaken;                                                               
competition would exist within the Company's portfolio.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:38:18 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In order  to better understand  the intent of this  concept slide                                                               
in  relation   to  this  bill,  Co-Chair   Wilken  asked  whether                                                               
exchanging the words  "'before tax increase' with  'before SB 305                                                               
and after SB 305'" would be "appropriate and correct".                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kah  affirmed, but  clarified  that  regardless of  the  tax                                                               
levels  proposed in  these bills,  any tax  increase would  cause                                                               
projects to be re-evaluated.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     What's Wrong With Windfall Profits  Taxes: The proposed bill                                                               
     has a surcharge based on ANS  West Coast oil prices over $40                                                               
     per barrel.  This is  tantamount to  a windfalls  profit tax                                                               
     because  it shaves  off the  upside without  helping on  the                                                               
     downside.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The U.S. federal government has  recently debated the merits                                                               
     of a windfall  profits tax on domestic  production, and this                                                               
     concept  drew   great  criticism  from  a   broad  range  of                                                               
     economists  and investors  across  many  industries. I  have                                                               
     provided two quotes  that represent the criticism  of such a                                                               
     tax. Daniel  Yergin of Cambridge Energy  Research Associates                                                               
     stated in  an interview  that "what  a windfall  profits tax                                                               
     does  is   introduce  a  lot   of  distortion.   It  reduces                                                               
     investment, it  increases a sense  of political risk  and it                                                               
     doesn't  achieve the  goal that  is intended…it  will really                                                               
     lead to  decreased supply". A  group of 250  economists from                                                               
     academic   and  other   institutions   across  the   nation,                                                               
     including Milton Friedman, the  Nobel Laureate in Economics,                                                               
     recently sent  a letter to  the U.S. Congress  stating their                                                               
     opposition to  such a tax,  indicating that it  would reduce                                                               
     domestic production and  expressing sadness that politicians                                                               
     hadn't learned  any lessons from  past experience  with this                                                               
     type of tax.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The non-partisan  U.S. Congressional Research  Service (CRS)                                                               
     assessed the impacts of the  federal windfall profits tax on                                                               
     domestic crude  production that was  in effect from  1980 to                                                               
     1988.  CRS concluded  that the  tax  reduced industry  gross                                                               
     revenues by $79 billion that  could otherwise have been used                                                               
     for investment. As  a result, the tax was  estimated to have                                                               
     reduced  domestic production  by up  to 1.6  billion barrels                                                               
     between 1980  and 1986, before  the collapse in  oil prices.                                                               
     It  also increased  oil imports  by  up to  16% during  this                                                               
     period.  The study  also  noted that  the  actual gross  tax                                                               
     revenue  collections  were  only  20% of  what  the  federal                                                               
     government  had expected.  This was  because prices  did not                                                               
     remain  at  the  very  high  levels  of  1980  and  domestic                                                               
     production ended up lower.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:41:21 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Value Uncertainty  in Balanced  Government Take: Now  I want                                                               
     to demonstrate how  a windfall profits tax  would impact our                                                               
     project  economics and  investment decisions.  In evaluating                                                               
     investment opportunities, ConocoPhillips  considers risk and                                                               
     opportunities  associated  with  an investment.  Assuming  a                                                               
     stable fiscal  environment, factors  that most  often impact                                                               
     our North Slope investments are:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · Oil price uncertainty, which accounts for the majority                                                                
          of NPV variance,                                                                                                      
        · Reserves and capital spending,                                                                                        
        · Operating costs, and                                                                                                  
        · Schedule, which is particularly important in Alaska as                                                                
          construction windows are limited. Missing a key                                                                       
          construction window (e.g. a sealift) can easily delay                                                                 
          the project by a year                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The impact of the sensitivities  for these key variables are                                                               
     demonstrated  in a  chart  called a  Tornado  Diagram. In  a                                                               
     Tornado  Diagram, the  impact  of a  given  variable on  the                                                               
     project value is  tested by holding all  other key variables                                                               
     at their  mean value and  varying the variable  being tested                                                               
     through the  high and  low end of  its expected  ranges. For                                                               
     example, in  the tornado diagram  pictured on the  left, the                                                               
     price bar is  truncated so that there is  more downside than                                                               
     upside  price  risk.  After running  all  the  probabilistic                                                               
     simulations,  this would  shift  the cumulative  probability                                                               
     curve  to  the left  so  that  the  project loses  money  53                                                               
     percent of  the time  and has a  positive net  present value                                                               
     only 47  percent of  the time.  The expected  value, reading                                                               
     across  to the  50th  percentile is  now slightly  negative.                                                               
     This  decrease in  project value  is purely  associated with                                                               
     reducing the upside potential associated  with oil price. In                                                               
     other words,  shaving off higher price  risk creates greater                                                               
     risk that  the project  will not  increase value.  Thus, the                                                               
     project will probably not be approved.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Ms.  Kah  communicated  that   since  the  industry  incorporated                                                               
"conservative price assumptions" such as  a $35 per barrel in its                                                               
economic calculations,  "people think" what would  "be wrong with                                                               
taking away the  upside". However, no single price  was the basis                                                               
of  the industry's  economics. The  tornado  diagram depicted  on                                                               
this  power  point  chart  further  explained  how  the  industry                                                               
"actually values  investments". Typically,  a price range  of $20                                                               
to  $80 per  barrel  would  be considered  and  factors would  be                                                               
applied to that  range to gauge their affects. "The  price of oil                                                               
by far"  would create the  biggest uncertainty for a  project. 80                                                               
percent of the  variances in projects were due to  changes in the                                                               
price  of  oil. "Probabilistic  weightings"  are  applied to  the                                                               
various prices.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah explained  that "the simplest distribution"  would be "to                                                               
assign a  50 percent  weight to  the mean price,  25 to  the high                                                               
price, and 25  to the low price". Similar  probabilities would be                                                               
applied to  other economic factors  such as reserves  and capital                                                               
operating  costs.  Thousands  of  multilayered  simulations  were                                                               
applied in the  effort to develop a  cumulative probability curve                                                               
which would "show you the  probability that the project will have                                                               
either a  positive or  negative net present  value." The  risk of                                                               
having  a  positive  or  negative net  value  would  be  depicted                                                               
"across a  range of  prices and all  these other  variables". She                                                               
reviewed the example depicted on the chart.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:44:10 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  understood that  the  project  exampled on  the                                                               
chart illustrated the  concept of the process rather  than a real                                                               
scenario. Since,  oil prices  were the real  issue of  concern, a                                                               
project's   modeling   would   be  affected   by   the   proposed                                                               
Progressivity  factor  since it  "would  shave  off some  of  the                                                               
upside". To  that point, he  asked whether the  economic modeling                                                               
of a project  with a $20 to  $80 price range would  be treated as                                                               
an "equally distributed price range".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah responded no, "the  usual assumption we make about prices                                                               
is  that   they're  log-normally  distributed  and   they're  not                                                               
normally  distributed; they  cut  off at  the  bottom 'cause  you                                                               
start getting into  shut-in costs quickly and they  tend to spike                                                               
up".                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  understood therefore that the  modeling would be                                                               
"skewed to the right, substantially".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah affirmed. "That's what  we're taking into account when we                                                               
look at our upside. The upside  is why our shareholders invest in                                                               
energy stock."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  surmised  that   the  presentation  would  also                                                               
address "the impact of taking away the upside".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah confirmed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman asked that "the  magnitude" of that impact on the                                                               
upside  be discussed,  "as  clearly there's  a  impact, but  what                                                               
we're looking at is … a  slight change" as the analysis conducted                                                               
by the Administration indicated  that the State's government take                                                               
numbers  would remain  fairly constant  going forward  under CSSB
305.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:46:17 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kah expressed  that,  while the  projects  presented in  her                                                               
presentation  were fictitious,  the  majority of  ConocoPhillips'                                                               
projects  mirrored  the  examples.   She  reiterated  that  price                                                               
accounted  for 80  percent of  the  risk in  a project.  Capital,                                                               
reserves,  operating   costs,  and  schedules  were   also  risks                                                               
experienced in Alaskan projects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Balanced and Progressive  Value Uncertainty Comparison: this                                                               
     slide  summarizes  how shaving  off  the  upside price  risk                                                               
     reduces the change  that the project will  be profitable and                                                               
     reduces the  expected value.  In this  case, the  project is                                                               
     far less likely to be undertaken without upside price risk.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It  is also  important to  understand that  our shareholders                                                               
     invest in energy  companies because they want  to be exposed                                                               
     to  upside  price  risk. We  will  have  trouble  attracting                                                               
     capital if we  were no longer exposed to this  risk. Being a                                                               
     high cost area, Alaska in  particular, is a high-price play,                                                               
     and shaving  off the  upside will  disproportionately impact                                                               
     investment in the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  reviewed the impact  of "shaving off the  price upside".                                                               
It  would remove  real value  and thus  the expected  value would                                                               
decrease.  The reason  that  a project  could  easily shift  from                                                               
being positive to negative is  "that this was probably a marginal                                                               
project to begin  with". It would be likely  "given the maturity,                                                               
cost,  and prospectivity  issues in  Alaska,  that a  lot of  the                                                               
projects" being considered "are marginal".                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  compared the two  graphs. "It  looks like a  very subtle                                                               
shift but what has happened is  that there is a greater chance of                                                               
loosing money  than there was before  and you are less  likely to                                                               
do the project now than you would have before."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  stressed that "we  do take  account of the  upside price                                                               
risks. Our shareholders invest in  our stock because they want to                                                               
be exposed  to the upside  price risk and we  do value it  in our                                                               
economics."  Removal  of the  upside  price  risk would  have  an                                                               
impact, "even  if that isn't our  mean belief of what  we believe                                                               
prices" would be in the future.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:48:46 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken furthered  the position that as the  price of ANS                                                               
increased, industry costs would  "only increase at an incremental                                                               
amount". CSSB  305 would result  in "a flat government  take" out                                                               
to a range of approximately $120  per barrel. The citizens of the                                                               
State,  who could  be considered  State  shareholders, relied  on                                                               
Legislators "to  make sure that  we get  our fair share,  and our                                                               
fair share  is that  the government  take at $40  is the  same at                                                               
$120." He  also considered  it "perfectly  appropriate to  have a                                                               
progressivity factor".  Where ConocoPhillips  to benefit  "by the                                                               
market", the people who own  the resource should also "benefit by                                                               
the market";  that concept is what  is embodied in the  PPT. This                                                               
is  the  concept he  supported  provided  that the  State's  take                                                               
remained  constant rather  than getting  "exponential" as  prices                                                               
increased.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah argued that the  State would benefit as prices increased.                                                               
"Even if  you held your  percent the same" as  revenues increased                                                               
the State would get more rather than being "held flat".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles emphasized  ConocoPhillips's  desire  to continue  to                                                               
operate and invest in Alaska.  "One of the key premises" stressed                                                               
today  "is  that there  are  numerous  locations" worldwide  that                                                               
companies  operating  in  Alaska  consider  in  their  investment                                                               
portfolio. "It's not so much of  what's fair to the State or fair                                                               
to the company" as  much as it would be to "what  you want to see                                                               
developed in the State … It's your  call at the end of the day of                                                               
how  much take  that you  want, but"  companies might  determine,                                                               
"even it it's  a flat take at higher prices",  that other regions                                                               
tax  regimes   were  "more  attractive",  as   expressed  in  Mr.                                                               
Bramley's OECD presentation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken responded "that's fair".                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Finding, Developing  & Production  Costs: This last  point I                                                               
     want to make  about a windfalls profits tax is  that some of                                                               
     what is  being perceives  as a  windfall is  actually higher                                                               
     reserve replacement costs. Let me explain.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     While  price increases  across all  of  our energy  products                                                               
     have recently  increased our  industry's earnings  to record                                                               
     levels, it  is only  temporary as  we are  also experiencing                                                               
     enormous  cost  inflation  as  the  industry  ramps  up  its                                                               
     investments  to increase  supplies.  This  chart shows  that                                                               
     industry finding, developing and  production costs have more                                                               
     than doubled since 1999, excluding  government take. F&D and                                                               
     production  costs are  the  components  of replacement  cost                                                               
     most quoted because  they are the easiest to  measure in the                                                               
     financial statements  of oil companies. However,  this chart                                                               
     is   missing  a   number  of   the  components   of  reserve                                                               
     replacement costs. It is missing  all government take, which                                                               
     on average was probably about  $20-25 per barrel in 2005. It                                                               
     is also  missing a cost-of-capital return  and an adjustment                                                               
     reflecting compensation for the  time value of money because                                                               
     you are spending  money in year zero  and getting production                                                               
     and revenues many years later.  If replacement cost is being                                                               
     stated  in  terms of  WTI  prices,  these numbers  are  also                                                               
     missing additional quality  and transportation costs because                                                               
     most  crudes are  more remote  and lower  quality than  WTI.                                                               
     When you  add all  these costs  up, it is  easy to  see that                                                               
     replacement costs  today are probably  over $50  per barrel.                                                               
     In fact,  several financial  analysts (e.g.,  Goldman Sachs,                                                               
     Bernstein) who track the energy  business believe that long-                                                               
     term  reserve  replacement  costs  today are  over  $50  per                                                               
     barrel when  government take and  the increased  risk around                                                               
     cost uncertainty are included in the cost calculation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     While oil prices may have  peaked, spending levels and costs                                                               
     are  continuing to  rise. Some  of  this inflation  reflects                                                               
     temporary conditions  such as service industry  capacity not                                                               
     keeping  pace with  industry spending  levels  and the  high                                                               
     cost  of materials  like steel  due  to particularly  strong                                                               
     industrial growth  in China.  Some of  the cost  increase is                                                               
     structural, and more permanent,  though, reflecting the fact                                                               
     that  our  industry  is  investing  in  prospects  that  are                                                               
     smaller, more complex or remote and higher cost.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     We  are concerned  that some  of what  people perceive  is a                                                               
     "windfall"  today  actually  reflects  the  tremendous  cost                                                               
     inflation  that   has  taken  place  in   the  industry.  In                                                               
     addition, the size  of the major's earnings  sounds large to                                                               
     most people  but it reflects  the scale of our  business and                                                               
     required  investment levels  and enormous  risk involved  in                                                               
     replacing reserves.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This matters because  if the alleged "windfall"  is taxed at                                                               
     higher  rates  and  reserve  replacement  costs  really  are                                                               
     between $50-60 per barrel, our  industry will not be able to                                                               
     profitably re-invest even at today's prices.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Key Messages  from Corporate Perspective:  I will  stop here                                                               
     and summarize my key messages.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        · It is our opinion that the current tax regime isn't                                                                   
          competitive when compared with Alaska's prospectivity                                                                 
          and cost versus the other opportunities we have to                                                                    
          invest in around the world.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · Thus, we believe that increasing the tax rate will                                                                    
          significantly reduce our investment and production in                                                                 
          Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · We are also concerned about the windfall profits tax                                                                  
          the CS would put in place as it would reduce the cash                                                                 
          we have to invest, and it would adversely impact the                                                                  
          risk/reward balance of investing in Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · The federal government has tried a windfall profits                                                                   
          tax in the past and it reduced investment and                                                                         
          production and failed to generate the expected                                                                        
          revenues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ConocoPhillips  has been  a  long-term  investor in  Alaska.                                                               
     Including our heritage companies we  have more than 50 years                                                               
     of business  history in  Alaska. We believe  there can  be a                                                               
     great  future  in this  state,  and  although mature,  there                                                               
     remains  a lot  of potential.  We want  to be  part of  this                                                               
     future.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:55:55 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman   recalled  that   the  oil  and   gas  industry                                                               
experienced  $12.75 billion  in gross  revenue in  FY 2005.  This                                                               
netted producers  approximately 37  percent or $4.7  billion. The                                                               
government  take  of  the  industry  share  after  costs  was  45                                                               
percent. That  would appear "to  be a fairly  profitable business                                                               
regardless" of  industry's position.  This revenue  was generated                                                               
on an average  oil price of $43 per barrel.  Prices are currently                                                               
considerably higher  than that of  FY 2006. This would  result in                                                               
more revenue to the producers  and federal and state governments.                                                               
While Alaska  reaped substantial  returns at  the $43  per barrel                                                               
price,  a  price of  $20  per  barrel  would  be harmful  to  all                                                               
entities.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:57:25 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kah  acknowledged that the  oil and gas  industry experienced                                                               
record  earnings in  2005. Their  spending level  could not  keep                                                               
pace with  the swiftness of  rising prices. "But what  we quickly                                                               
found  was  that when  we  tried  to  reinvest  and look  at  new                                                               
projects  at today's  cost levels,  nothing looks  economic. It's                                                               
actually  frightening  to us"….  thus,  the  development of  this                                                               
forward  looking concept.  The  typical  industry profit  margin,                                                               
even  in the  year 2007  would be  7.5 cents  per unit  of sales.                                                               
Numerous  other  industries  experience  higher  profit  margins.                                                               
"This  is not  a particularly  attractive  industry" even  though                                                               
2005 was  well above an average  price cycle. "But we  need years                                                               
like that  to offset years  such as  1998 where the  industry was                                                               
well below  the cycle.  A decent  return over  a ten  year cycle"                                                               
would be desired.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman acknowledged.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  noted  that barrel  prices  have  escalated  in                                                               
recent years to the $60 range.  Continuing, he asked how long the                                                               
$20  to $80  range  has  been used  in  the industry  forecasting                                                               
modeling,  as the  forecast must  have been  adjusted to  reflect                                                               
changing times at some point.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kah stated  that price  range was  implemented in  2005. The                                                               
price range  might have  included a high  of $75  previously. The                                                               
industry however, always included a  spike on the price high side                                                               
due to the log-normally distribution nature of the industry.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:59:29 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Bowles  summarized   key   points   in  the   presentation.                                                               
ConocoPhillips  "fully  supported  the   idea  of  a  percent  of                                                               
government take  that's competitive and  that could be used  as a                                                               
yardstick as  far as  how you  set the  production tax  rate that                                                               
we're looking  at today". ConocoPhillips  asked the  Committee to                                                               
consider "one message" in the  effort to determine an appropriate                                                               
tax rate:  that being  that the OECD  countries be  considered as                                                               
"the core competitors" for the  capital that might be invested in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles also  pointed out that there is  "a direct connection"                                                               
between increased taxes and investment  and jobs. Increased taxes                                                               
would  reduce industry  capital and  would affect  the industry's                                                               
risk/reward   economic   decisions.  The   risk/weight   economic                                                               
modeling  utilized  by  ConocoPhillips was  a  standard  industry                                                               
approach to considering whether a project would be undertaken.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles professed there to  be "a fine balance" in determining                                                               
a correct  tax level. A  "tax increase  that goes too  far" could                                                               
"take  more  value  away  from  the State  than  what"  it  would                                                               
generate in  the short term.  He encouraged the Committee  to ask                                                               
other  consultants  to  comment  on   some  of  the  ideas  being                                                               
presented in this testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles  noted  that  whether   or  not  the  20/20  proposal                                                               
presented in SB 305 would  strike the right balance was difficult                                                               
to predict. However, it would "be  fair to say that it did strike                                                               
a balance and it was something  that the industry was prepared to                                                               
go forward  with". The addition  of the Progressivity  element in                                                               
CSSB 305 "is something that  does definitely take away the upside                                                               
and is  an item" that  would affect any company's  decision about                                                               
whether or not to advance projects in Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:02:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles noted  that, while the presentation  had not addressed                                                               
the  bill's transition  provisions,  ConocoPhillips had  reviewed                                                               
the transition  look-ahead provisions  included in CSSB  305. The                                                               
look-ahead provisions  were evidence  that the  Senate recognized                                                               
that investments made  during the last five years,  some of which                                                               
had not yet produced any oil,  were made under a previous "set of                                                               
rules and  tax forecasts". The look-ahead  provisions which would                                                               
allow a  two dollar investment  to receive one dollar  in credits                                                               
"would effectively  offer an  incentive" to  a company  which had                                                               
made investments during the past  five years. This was an example                                                               
of many right balances that could be included in the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bowles  favored SB 305's July  1, 2006 start date  or a later                                                               
date rather  than the April  1, 2006  start date included  in the                                                               
committee substitutes. A  start date later than  July first would                                                               
provide more time  for companies to adjust to the  changes in the                                                               
tax regime.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  asked whether the  industry considered  the five                                                               
year look-back  and five-year  look-ahead provision  specified in                                                               
the transition  provisions of the  bill to be sufficient  time in                                                               
which  to  conduct  exploration  and  development  activities  in                                                               
consideration of worldwide equipment and labor constraints.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles   appreciated  the  question.   ConocoPhillips  would                                                               
consider a look-ahead  recoupment period of seven  or eight years                                                               
on a  five-year dollar look-back  to be more  appropriate. Rather                                                               
than a  company being  unwilling to  invest at  a level  in which                                                               
their "expenses could be fully  recouped", delays might be caused                                                               
by other limitations such as equipment and labor constraints.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:05:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green reiterated  that Members should notify  her of any                                                               
subjects they would  like included in the set  of questions being                                                               
developed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   asked  whether   the  Alaska   Permanent  Fund                                                               
Corporation (APFC) had invested in ConocoPhillips.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bowles   understood  that,  while  APFC   wished  that  some                                                               
investment had been made in  companies investing in the State, no                                                               
such  investments  had been  made.  This  could  be part  of  the                                                               
"alignment" issue discussion.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green stated  that public testimony on the  PPT bill was                                                               
scheduled for Saturday, April 8th.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green reminded  the Committee that a  joint hearing with                                                               
the  House  Finance Committee  would  convene  this afternoon.  A                                                               
presentation  on  the  Alaska  Gas   Pipeline  Project  would  be                                                               
conducted by Econ One Research, Inc.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The bill was HELD in Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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